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Greatoutdoors

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:34 pm
Post subject: XP Partition and OS Questions
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I posted this on XP General, but thought it might be more appropriate here,
so please bear with me.

While using an XP Reinstallation Disk (OEM) for my Dell Dimension 4600 I
found two partitions on my 40 GB drive, one large NTFS and one small FAT32,
plus 8 MB of unallocated space. I deleted the two partitions and created one
new NTFS. When I finished I still had the 8 MB of unllocated space. Bios said
the new partition was maximum size. I only want a single partition.

I reinstalled Windows XP Pro and SP2 (from a disk), and downloaded Norton
Anti-Virus 2004, plus all Norton updates (kept repeating until it found
none). I then tried to download Microsoft updates for XP but couldn’t do it –
can’t download Active X either.

Questions:

1. On bootup, XP shows two OS's (identical). When I highlight the second it
says it can't access it, but why is it still showing?

2. Windows never asked for an activation number. Why not?

2. Why the 8 MB of free space? (I have a 40 GB hard drive.)

3. Why can’t I download Microsoft updates? (I disabled Norton and
Earthlink’s Pop-up Blocker.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:38 pm
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71A6729B-9AE8-42EB-85C2-43F9A740E570.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com,
Greatoutdoors <noname.TakeThisOut@net.com> wrote:
> I posted this on XP General, but thought it might be more
> appropriate here,
> so please bear with me.
>
> While using an XP Reinstallation Disk (OEM) for my Dell
> Dimension 4600 I
> found two partitions on my 40 GB drive, one large NTFS and
> one small FAT32,
> plus 8 MB of unallocated space. I deleted the two partitions
> and created one
> new NTFS. When I finished I still had the 8 MB of unllocated
> space. Bios said the new partition was maximum size. I only
> want a single partition.
>
> I reinstalled Windows XP Pro and SP2 (from a disk), and
> downloaded Norton Anti-Virus 2004, plus all Norton updates
> (kept repeating until it found
> none). I then tried to download Microsoft updates for XP but
> couldn’t do it – can’t download Active X either.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. On bootup, XP shows two OS's (identical). When I
> highlight the second it
> says it can't access it, but why is it still showing?
>
> 2. Windows never asked for an activation number. Why not?
>
> 2. Why the 8 MB of free space? (I have a 40 GB hard drive.)
>
> 3. Why can’t I download Microsoft updates? (I disabled
> Norton and Earthlink’s Pop-up Blocker.

1. Check C:\Boot.ini and see what it shows for entries. Since
you formatted your hard drive there should only be one
operating system listed.

If you just want to fix the problem, do the following:
Go to Start -> Run and enter msconfig in the Open box. Click
OK.
Click on the Boot.ini tab.
Hit the "Check all boot paths" button.
You should be asked if you wish to delete the invalid entry.

If you're looking for a second opinion on this issue, open your
boot.ini file and copy and paste the contents into a response
to this message. I'll take a look at it and get back to you.

2. You didn't have to activate because you used an OEM XP
installation CD that's been customized by Dell to include a
volume license key in this file, X:\I386\winnt.sif (where X is
the drive letter associated with your CD Drive). When you use
this CD on a Dell computer you don't have to enter a CD key or
activate. Use the CD on another companies PC and you need to
enter a CD key which can't be the key on the sticker that's on
your computer. Use a non-Dell issued OEM CD on your computer
and you'd have to enter the key from the sticker. I may be
mistaken but I think this would mean you'd have to activate
over the phone. Bottom line, don't lose that CD. Better yet,
make a copy and put the original in a safe place.

3. First off, the small FAT32 partition probably held Dell
diagnostic files. Removing this partition simply means you now
have to insert a CD that came with your system if you want to
run the Dell diagnostic programs.

As for the 8MB of unallocated space, I believe that when you
format a drive NTFS Windows sets aside a small amount of space
to be used if the drive is ever converted from a basic disk to
a dynamic disk.

4. Go to Control Panel -> Internet Options and check what your
settings for the Internet Zone are on the Security page. Look
to see what the restrictions are for downloading and installing
ActiveX controls by hitting the "Custom Level" button. You can
reset to Medium level and see if you can access Windows Update.

If you're still unable to access updates, you might want to ask
for assistance here:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

Good luck

Nepatsfan

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Greatoutdoors

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:29 am
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Thank you for your offer of help – gratefully accepted!

My boot.ini file says the following

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft XP Professional"
/fast detect
/NoExecute=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft XP
Professional" /fast detect


I ran “Check All Boot Paths.” One turned out to be faultyas you suspected
and the system offered to delete it. I accepted that choice and restarted the
PC, which resulted in the message below.

"You have used the System Configuration Utility to make changes to the way
Windows starts.

"The System Configuration Utility is currently in Diagnostic or Selective
Startup mode, causing this message to bedisplayed and the utility to run
every time Windows starts.

"Choose the Normal Startup mode on the General tab to start Windows normally
and undo the changes youmade using the System Configuration Utility.

"(Check Box) Don't show this message or launch the System Configuration
Utility when Windows start: (Okay box)"

I clicked OK and now am back to square one. I don’t recall earlier Windows
OS’s being this frustrating! If I checked the box saying "Don't show this
message..." would that be the answer to making the change stick?

I figure if I take this one step at a time, and with your help, I may just
get through it and learn something in the process!


ALso, thank you for you answer to the mysterious 8 MB of space and the no
activitation issue -- it seems so simple once you know what it is. (And makes
me feel a bit stupid -- sorry about that!) I will take your advice and make a
copy of the Reinstallation Disk.

As to the FAT32 partition -- that would be an "Oops"! It never occurred to
me. I have played around in the past installing and reinstalling W2000 Pro on
a Pentium 2 and purposely created both FAT32 and NTSF files. I think I had a
brain freeze or flashback and just thought, "I created that one, though I
dont know when, so I will just delete it now." Senility is not all its
cracked up to be!

I have been to Control Panel and thought I had everything set, but I will
try that again this evening and see what happens. I certainly could have
missed something.

Do you think the easiest solution might be just to reinstall once more? I
wonder if all this might be a Norton conflct of some kind and perhaps if I
downloaded Microsoft updates first, then installed and updated Norton, it
might give better results. What do you think?

Thanks again so much for walking me through this -- I know it is kid stuff
to folks who know what they are doing!
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nigel r fisher

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:32 am
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hi! do you know how to put disc c: and e: back together again? sorry it
sounds like "humpty dumpty" but i also have "low disc space" on e:
--
with thanks nigel


"Greatoutdoors" wrote:

> I posted this on XP General, but thought it might be more appropriate here,
> so please bear with me.
>
> While using an XP Reinstallation Disk (OEM) for my Dell Dimension 4600 I
> found two partitions on my 40 GB drive, one large NTFS and one small FAT32,
> plus 8 MB of unallocated space. I deleted the two partitions and created one
> new NTFS. When I finished I still had the 8 MB of unllocated space. Bios said
> the new partition was maximum size. I only want a single partition.
>
> I reinstalled Windows XP Pro and SP2 (from a disk), and downloaded Norton
> Anti-Virus 2004, plus all Norton updates (kept repeating until it found
> none). I then tried to download Microsoft updates for XP but couldn’t do it –
> can’t download Active X either.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. On bootup, XP shows two OS's (identical). When I highlight the second it
> says it can't access it, but why is it still showing?
>
> 2. Windows never asked for an activation number. Why not?
>
> 2. Why the 8 MB of free space? (I have a 40 GB hard drive.)
>
> 3. Why can’t I download Microsoft updates? (I disabled Norton and
> Earthlink’s Pop-up Blocker.
>
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DL

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:10 pm
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with a third party tool, eg partition magic
or by starting over with a clean install

"nigel r fisher" <nigelrfisher RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:499EDFB5-D231-4275-B1AE-9FB5467FB5F9@microsoft.com...
> hi! do you know how to put disc c: and e: back together again? sorry it
> sounds like "humpty dumpty" but i also have "low disc space" on e:
> --
> with thanks nigel
>
>
> "Greatoutdoors" wrote:
>
>> I posted this on XP General, but thought it might be more appropriate
>> here,
>> so please bear with me.
>>
>> While using an XP Reinstallation Disk (OEM) for my Dell Dimension 4600 I
>> found two partitions on my 40 GB drive, one large NTFS and one small
>> FAT32,
>> plus 8 MB of unallocated space. I deleted the two partitions and created
>> one
>> new NTFS. When I finished I still had the 8 MB of unllocated space. Bios
>> said
>> the new partition was maximum size. I only want a single partition.
>>
>> I reinstalled Windows XP Pro and SP2 (from a disk), and downloaded Norton
>> Anti-Virus 2004, plus all Norton updates (kept repeating until it found
>> none). I then tried to download Microsoft updates for XP but couldn't do
>> it -
>> can't download Active X either.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> 1. On bootup, XP shows two OS's (identical). When I highlight the second
>> it
>> says it can't access it, but why is it still showing?
>>
>> 2. Windows never asked for an activation number. Why not?
>>
>> 2. Why the 8 MB of free space? (I have a 40 GB hard drive.)
>>
>> 3. Why can't I download Microsoft updates? (I disabled Norton and
>> Earthlink's Pop-up Blocker.
>>
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jazzee

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:15 am
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On question 1)

Do you have Windows Vista installed on your system? I ask this because when
I did this I tried to install Vista and XP and my Boot.ini file fouled up.
As you say that one of the OS choices is void then simply editing the
boot.ini file will solve this problem. Open My Computer, goto C:Drive and
then go to Tools, File Options, View. Then Click on Show Hidden Files and
Folders to reveal the Boot.ini file on your c:drive. Right click on this
file and unclick Read Only to enable file edit and open the file with
notepad. Then delete the void AND ONLY THE VOID OS choice entry to remove
this problem.

Question 2) You`ve got me!! I`m stumped

Question 3) The 8MB partition is the windows file partition as far as I
know. I`d leave it as is.

Question 4) Is your copy of Windows Illegal. If it is and you are using a
blocked volume key then you will not get all the updates. Activate Automatic
Updates in Control Panel to download as many as you can. Then check the
Microsoft for Block Monthly updates. Also a site called Keznews will
contain block download files for August and September monthly security
updates.

Hope this helps.

"nigel r fisher" <nigelrfisher.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:499EDFB5-D231-4275-B1AE-9FB5467FB5F9@microsoft.com...
> hi! do you know how to put disc c: and e: back together again? sorry it
> sounds like "humpty dumpty" but i also have "low disc space" on e:
> --
> with thanks nigel
>
>
> "Greatoutdoors" wrote:
>
>> I posted this on XP General, but thought it might be more appropriate
>> here,
>> so please bear with me.
>>
>> While using an XP Reinstallation Disk (OEM) for my Dell Dimension 4600 I
>> found two partitions on my 40 GB drive, one large NTFS and one small
>> FAT32,
>> plus 8 MB of unallocated space. I deleted the two partitions and created
>> one
>> new NTFS. When I finished I still had the 8 MB of unllocated space. Bios
>> said
>> the new partition was maximum size. I only want a single partition.
>>
>> I reinstalled Windows XP Pro and SP2 (from a disk), and downloaded Norton
>> Anti-Virus 2004, plus all Norton updates (kept repeating until it found
>> none). I then tried to download Microsoft updates for XP but couldn’t do
>> it –
>> can’t download Active X either.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> 1. On bootup, XP shows two OS's (identical). When I highlight the second
>> it
>> says it can't access it, but why is it still showing?
>>
>> 2. Windows never asked for an activation number. Why not?
>>
>> 2. Why the 8 MB of free space? (I have a 40 GB hard drive.)
>>
>> 3. Why can’t I download Microsoft updates? (I disabled Norton and
>> Earthlink’s Pop-up Blocker.
>>
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