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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:30 am
Post subject: Slow Start-up
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I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to start
up.
A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
(which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
(meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who have
a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the start-up
time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive light
turned off like described above). Is it good enough now? |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Slow Start-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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there are a number of issues for slow startups.
but first lets begin to compare the 2 modes of
operations that you have by seeing
how fast is your startup to safemode?
remember to press f8 to get the boot menu option
for safe mode.....
"Jacques" <Jacques RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
>I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
>start
> up.
> A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> have
> a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
>
> Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> start-up
> time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> light
> turned off like described above). Is it good enough now? |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Slow Start-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jacques wrote:
> I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes
> to start up.
> A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be
> always on (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So
> for people who have a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like
> I did?
>
> Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> start-up time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided
> to uninstall ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall
> instead. The start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with
> the hard drive light turned off like described above). Is it good
> enough now?
Nobody else can tell you what's good enough for you. You have to decide what
you consider good enough.
My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it takes
to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is otherwise
satisfactory, it may not be worth worrying about. Most people start their
computers once a day or even less frequently. In the overall scheme of
things, even a few minutes to start up isn't very important. Personally I
power on my computer when I get up in the morning, then go get my coffee.
When I come back, it's done booting. I don't know how long it took to boot
and I don't care.
--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Slow Start-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In Safe Mode, it took 2 minutes and 40 seconds
"DatabaseBen" wrote:
> there are a number of issues for slow startups.
> but first lets begin to compare the 2 modes of
> operations that you have by seeing
> how fast is your startup to safemode?
>
> remember to press f8 to get the boot menu option
> for safe mode.....
>
> "Jacques" <Jacques RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
> >I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
> >start
> > up.
> > A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> > When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> > (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> > (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> > have
> > a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
> >
> > Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> > startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> > start-up
> > time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> > ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> > start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> > light
> > turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Slow Start-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In Safe Mode, it took 2 minutes and 40 seconds.
"DatabaseBen" wrote:
> there are a number of issues for slow startups.
> but first lets begin to compare the 2 modes of
> operations that you have by seeing
> how fast is your startup to safemode?
>
> remember to press f8 to get the boot menu option
> for safe mode.....
>
> "Jacques" <Jacques RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
> >I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
> >start
> > up.
> > A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> > When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> > (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> > (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> > have
> > a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
> >
> > Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> > startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> > start-up
> > time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> > ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> > start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> > light
> > turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:59 am
Post subject: Re: Slow Start-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jacques" <Jacques.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
>I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
>start
> up.
> A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> have
> a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
>
> Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> start-up
> time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> light
> turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
You don't mention the specs of your laptop. If you have a slow CPU and not
much RAM you should expect a slow boot time. What have you got? >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:59 am
Post subject: Re: Slow Start-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Very good question.
I have a Compaq Presario laptop 2.4 GHz and 512 MB RAM.
"Leftred" wrote:
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> "Jacques" <Jacques.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
> >I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
> >start
> > up.
> > A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> > When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> > (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> > (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> > have
> > a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
> >
> > Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> > startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> > start-up
> > time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> > ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> > start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> > light
> > turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
>
> You don't mention the specs of your laptop. If you have a slow CPU and not
> much RAM you should expect a slow boot time. What have you got?
>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:07 am
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Is that speed with the AC plugged in or is it running on battery? How
much "HP" utilities are being loaded? Is it a 5400 rpm drive or 7200
rpm. Oh so many possibilities!
Jacques wrote:
> Very good question.
> I have a Compaq Presario laptop 2.4 GHz and 512 MB RAM.
>
> "Leftred" wrote:
>
>
>>"Jacques" <Jacques.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
>>>start
>>>up.
>>>A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
>>>When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
>>>(which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
>>>(meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
>>>have
>>>a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
>>>
>>>Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
>>>startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
>>>start-up
>>>time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
>>>ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
>>>start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
>>>light
>>>turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
>>
>>You don't mention the specs of your laptop. If you have a slow CPU and not
>>much RAM you should expect a slow boot time. What have you got?
>>
>>
>> >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:58 am
Post subject: Re: Slow Start-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jacques" <Jacques RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
>I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
>start
> up.
> A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> (meaning that startup programs have finished to load).
I don't think so, or at least not exactly. The hard drive light stops when
there are no requests for disk access. But who's asking for disk access?
Certainly the startup kernel, but once the kernel loads a program, that
APPLICATION PROGRAM may then start its own disk activity.
For example, indexing services or a synchronizing initialization (MS Word
does several hundred accesses when it starts). Outlook may be downloading
bags and bags of newsgroup messages. Your virus checker may be downloading
today's definitions. In other words, you may have an application starting
that does a huge amount of housekeeping. >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:50 pm
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AC plugged in.
No HP utility is running.
It's a 4200 RPM.
"Bob I" wrote:
> Is that speed with the AC plugged in or is it running on battery? How
> much "HP" utilities are being loaded? Is it a 5400 rpm drive or 7200
> rpm. Oh so many possibilities!
>
> Jacques wrote:
>
> > Very good question.
> > I have a Compaq Presario laptop 2.4 GHz and 512 MB RAM.
> >
> > "Leftred" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Jacques" <Jacques.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >>>I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
> >>>start
> >>>up.
> >>>A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> >>>When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> >>>(which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> >>>(meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> >>>have
> >>>a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
> >>>
> >>>Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> >>>startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> >>>start-up
> >>>time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> >>>ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> >>>start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> >>>light
> >>>turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
> >>
> >>You don't mention the specs of your laptop. If you have a slow CPU and not
> >>much RAM you should expect a slow boot time. What have you got?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:51 pm
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That's right but I don't time it when etrust pest control is updating its
definition.
Also when I timed it, Outlook and Word were closed.
"HeyBub" wrote:
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> "Jacques" <Jacques RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
> >I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
> >start
> > up.
> > A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> > When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> > (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> > (meaning that startup programs have finished to load).
>
> I don't think so, or at least not exactly. The hard drive light stops when
> there are no requests for disk access. But who's asking for disk access?
> Certainly the startup kernel, but once the kernel loads a program, that
> APPLICATION PROGRAM may then start its own disk activity.
>
> For example, indexing services or a synchronizing initialization (MS Word
> does several hundred accesses when it starts). Outlook may be downloading
> bags and bags of newsgroup messages. Your virus checker may be downloading
> today's definitions. In other words, you may have an application starting
> that does a huge amount of housekeeping.
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:22 am
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4200 rpm is excruciatingly slow. I would venture that that is a big part
of the "slow". While it would help with battery life, you will pay the
price in time whenever you need to wait while something has to be
retrieved from disc, like bootup for instance.
Jacques wrote:
> AC plugged in.
> No HP utility is running.
> It's a 4200 RPM.
>
> "Bob I" wrote:
>
>
>>Is that speed with the AC plugged in or is it running on battery? How
>>much "HP" utilities are being loaded? Is it a 5400 rpm drive or 7200
>>rpm. Oh so many possibilities!
>>
>>Jacques wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Very good question.
>>>I have a Compaq Presario laptop 2.4 GHz and 512 MB RAM.
>>>
>>>"Leftred" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Jacques" <Jacques.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
>>>>>start
>>>>>up.
>>>>>A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
>>>>>When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
>>>>>(which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
>>>>>(meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
>>>>>have
>>>>>a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
>>>>>
>>>>>Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
>>>>>startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
>>>>>start-up
>>>>>time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
>>>>>ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
>>>>>start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
>>>>>light
>>>>>turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
>>>>
>>>>You don't mention the specs of your laptop. If you have a slow CPU and not
>>>>much RAM you should expect a slow boot time. What have you got?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:44 am
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does it boot in safemode quicker?
"Jacques" <Jacques RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
>I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
>start
> up.
> A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> have
> a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
>
> Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> start-up
> time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> light
> turned off like described above). Is it good enough now? >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:44 am
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Yes, 2 minutes and 40 seconds.
"DatabaseBen" wrote:
> does it boot in safemode quicker?
>
>
> "Jacques" <Jacques.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
> >I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
> >start
> > up.
> > A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> > When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> > (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> > (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> > have
> > a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
> >
> > Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> > startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> > start-up
> > time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> > ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> > start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> > light
> > turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:44 am
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Yes, 2 minutes and 40 seconds.
"DatabaseBen" wrote:
> does it boot in safemode quicker?
>
>
> "Jacques" <Jacques DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE76BABB-2769-4553-BA4D-900DCAE2E07B@microsoft.com...
> >I posted a question a few weeks ago about my laptop taking 6 minutes to
> >start
> > up.
> > A few people told me that it should be 1 minute instead.
> > When I time the start-up, I don't stop the time when I see the desktop
> > (which is pretty quick) but when the hard drive light stop to be always on
> > (meaning that startup programs have finished to load). So for people who
> > have
> > a start-up time of 1 minute, did you time it like I did?
> >
> > Then I followed the advices given on my post, I removed the maximum of
> > startup items (items that I don't use every day) in msconfig and the
> > start-up
> > time became 5 minutes. It was not good enough so I decided to uninstall
> > ZoneAlarm (Firewall Protection) and use Windows Firewall instead. The
> > start-up time is now 3 minutes 45 seconds (measured with the hard drive
> > light
> > turned off like described above). Is it good enough now?
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Slow Start-up |
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