MFT Size

you meant to say defrag will cleanup the MFT Sector..yes but I still need to
increase the MFT size.. currently it's only 28mg.. This was suggested by
diskeeper..Rainy.
"Larry Gardner" <newscience83 RemoveThis @usadatanet.net> wrote in message
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I believe that Defrag with cleanup the MFT sector.

"Rainy" <rainy RemoveThis @sweetwrapz.net> wrote in message
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>I am using Diskeeper Pro.. a wonderful program.. but it is telling me I
>need
> to increase the size of the MFT ? and I can't find a way to do that inside
> the program.. any help appreciated.. seems like since the MFT IS ONLY 28mb
> it fills up quite easily with fragments. So I need to increase the size!
> thanks Rainy ps. keep it simple techs, ok? lol
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

Instead of blindly doing what some program recommends, I suggest you
investigate a bit. Do you have any problems caused by the MFT's smaller
size. I will bet a resounding NO!

Go to their news groups/forums and read a bit about what others have to say.

A few years back I fell for the same thing. I had a few small problems as a
result of changing it and saw absolutely no benefit of doing so.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Rainy" <rainy RemoveThis @sweetwrapz.net> wrote in message
news:%23kUldRjkGHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I am using Diskeeper Pro.. a wonderful program.. but it is telling me I
>need
> to increase the size of the MFT ? and I can't find a way to do that inside
> the program.. any help appreciated.. seems like since the MFT IS ONLY 28mb
> it fills up quite easily with fragments. So I need to increase the size!
> thanks Rainy ps. keep it simple techs, ok? lol
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

the program is telling me that the drives are degraded.. and unless I defrag
every day which I do.. since I am on almost 24/7... the drives would
degrad.. I trust diskeeper, and as a matter of fact got the program from
this group.. someone recommended it.. are you saying you use Diskeeper
too.. and you changed the size. and saw nothing beneficial? that's a point,
and will rethink this.. just thought it would do no harm to increase the
size.. like what could happen? thanks Rainy
"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23MRtKpjkGHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Instead of blindly doing what some program recommends, I suggest you
investigate a bit. Do you have any problems caused by the MFT's smaller
size. I will bet a resounding NO!

Go to their news groups/forums and read a bit about what others have to say.

A few years back I fell for the same thing. I had a few small problems as a
result of changing it and saw absolutely no benefit of doing so.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Rainy" <rainy DeleteThis @sweetwrapz.net> wrote in message
news:%23kUldRjkGHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I am using Diskeeper Pro.. a wonderful program.. but it is telling me I
>need
> to increase the size of the MFT ? and I can't find a way to do that inside
> the program.. any help appreciated.. seems like since the MFT IS ONLY 28mb
> it fills up quite easily with fragments. So I need to increase the size!
> thanks Rainy ps. keep it simple techs, ok? lol
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

Defragging your hard drive **every day** is totally unnecessary. You seem
to have more than your fair share of problems. Why do you keep messing with
your computer ??

MD



"Rainy" wrote:

> the program is telling me that the drives are degraded.. and unless I defrag
> every day which I do.. since I am on almost 24/7... the drives would
> degrad.. I trust diskeeper, and as a matter of fact got the program from
> this group.. someone recommended it.. are you saying you use Diskeeper
> too.. and you changed the size. and saw nothing beneficial? that's a point,
> and will rethink this.. just thought it would do no harm to increase the
> size.. like what could happen? thanks Rainy
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23MRtKpjkGHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Instead of blindly doing what some program recommends, I suggest you
> investigate a bit. Do you have any problems caused by the MFT's smaller
> size. I will bet a resounding NO!
>
> Go to their news groups/forums and read a bit about what others have to say.
>
> A few years back I fell for the same thing. I had a few small problems as a
> result of changing it and saw absolutely no benefit of doing so.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
>
> "Rainy" <rainy RemoveThis @sweetwrapz.net> wrote in message
> news:%23kUldRjkGHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >I am using Diskeeper Pro.. a wonderful program.. but it is telling me I
> >need
> > to increase the size of the MFT ? and I can't find a way to do that inside
> > the program.. any help appreciated.. seems like since the MFT IS ONLY 28mb
> > it fills up quite easily with fragments. So I need to increase the size!
> > thanks Rainy ps. keep it simple techs, ok? lol
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

I appreciate your response, but that is your opinion that defragging every
day is totally unnecessary... I believe that it helps my computer.. I know
of other techs who also defrag every day.. and when I do maintenance which
includes defragging, I feel/see a noticeable difference .. so I keep doing
it.. I am on my computer a great deal, and have a maintenance plan... which
works for me..

I used to have windows xp PRO.. unfortunately it wasn't a valid OS..( a
tech put my computer together and I had no way of knowing whether it was
legitimate of not until windows validation came out) so when I was able I
purchased a new OS.. and got Windows XP HOME.. which is slightly different..
so some of what I am setting up is new to me, for instance, I was never
asked about the MFT when I was running XP Pro.. and this is the reason I am
having a few problems not the fair share you speak about.. since I am asking
about my friends computer and my sons.. My computer is running in top
form.. That is why I mess with it.. I want it to stay that way!... thanks
Rainy

"MadDog" <MadDog RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8E95BCF4-E8A8-4B1D-90D3-3BAFBD625549@microsoft.com...
Defragging your hard drive **every day** is totally unnecessary. You seem
to have more than your fair share of problems. Why do you keep messing with
your computer ??

MD



"Rainy" wrote:

> the program is telling me that the drives are degraded.. and unless I
> defrag
> every day which I do.. since I am on almost 24/7... the drives would
> degrad.. I trust diskeeper, and as a matter of fact got the program from
> this group.. someone recommended it.. are you saying you use Diskeeper
> too.. and you changed the size. and saw nothing beneficial? that's a
> point,
> and will rethink this.. just thought it would do no harm to increase the
> size.. like what could happen? thanks Rainy
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23MRtKpjkGHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Instead of blindly doing what some program recommends, I suggest you
> investigate a bit. Do you have any problems caused by the MFT's smaller
> size. I will bet a resounding NO!
>
> Go to their news groups/forums and read a bit about what others have to
> say.
>
> A few years back I fell for the same thing. I had a few small problems as
> a
> result of changing it and saw absolutely no benefit of doing so.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
>
> "Rainy" <rainy RemoveThis @sweetwrapz.net> wrote in message
> news:%23kUldRjkGHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >I am using Diskeeper Pro.. a wonderful program.. but it is telling me I
> >need
> > to increase the size of the MFT ? and I can't find a way to do that
> > inside
> > the program.. any help appreciated.. seems like since the MFT IS ONLY
> > 28mb
> > it fills up quite easily with fragments. So I need to increase the size!
> > thanks Rainy ps. keep it simple techs, ok? lol
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:34:41 -0500, Rainy wrote:

> I am using Diskeeper Pro.. a wonderful program.. but it is telling me I need
> to increase the size of the MFT ? and I can't find a way to do that inside
> the program.. any help appreciated.. seems like since the MFT IS ONLY 28mb
> it fills up quite easily with fragments. So I need to increase the size!
> thanks Rainy ps. keep it simple techs, ok? lol

Sizing of the MFT is an automatic system function. It will expand if it
needs to. My vote goes to "leave it alone."

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

thanks kiddo.. I will.. Rainy
"Sharon F" <sharonfDEL RemoveThis @ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:eC6qbcmkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:34:41 -0500, Rainy wrote:

> I am using Diskeeper Pro.. a wonderful program.. but it is telling me I
> need
> to increase the size of the MFT ? and I can't find a way to do that inside
> the program.. any help appreciated.. seems like since the MFT IS ONLY 28mb
> it fills up quite easily with fragments. So I need to increase the size!
> thanks Rainy ps. keep it simple techs, ok? lol

Sizing of the MFT is an automatic system function. It will expand if it
needs to. My vote goes to "leave it alone."

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

Rainy wrote:

> I appreciate your response, but that is your opinion that defragging
> every day is totally unnecessary... I believe that it helps my
> computer.. I know of other techs who also defrag every day.. and
> when I do maintenance which includes defragging, I feel/see a
> noticeable difference .. so I keep doing it.. I am on my computer a
> great deal, and have a maintenance plan... which works for me..



What you do is of course up to you, but I'll throw in an opinion
anyway.Defragging anywhere near once a day is *enormous* overkill. If you
notice an improvement by doing so, I suspect that it's just your perception,
and is in the nature of a self-fulfilling prophecy. You see what you expect
to see.

Defragging once a *month* is more than most people need to do.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

I think what I will do is let it go for a week.. just to see if there is a
lot of fragmented files.. and what the difference would be.. I'm not so set
in my ways that I can't change what I am doing, especially if it's really
not working for me.. thanks for the response! Rainy
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:u1t93pokGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Rainy wrote:

> I appreciate your response, but that is your opinion that defragging
> every day is totally unnecessary... I believe that it helps my
> computer.. I know of other techs who also defrag every day.. and
> when I do maintenance which includes defragging, I feel/see a
> noticeable difference .. so I keep doing it.. I am on my computer a
> great deal, and have a maintenance plan... which works for me..



What you do is of course up to you, but I'll throw in an opinion
anyway.Defragging anywhere near once a day is *enormous* overkill. If you
notice an improvement by doing so, I suspect that it's just your perception,
and is in the nature of a self-fulfilling prophecy. You see what you expect
to see.

Defragging once a *month* is more than most people need to do.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

Curt Christianson wrote:

> Thanks Ken,
>
> Defrag, IMHO seems to be highly overrated these days. (naturally by
> defrag mfgs.)


You're welcome, Curt.

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Please reply to the newsgroup



> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake RemoveThis @this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:u1t93pokGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Rainy wrote:
>>
>>> I appreciate your response, but that is your opinion that defragging
>>> every day is totally unnecessary... I believe that it helps my
>>> computer.. I know of other techs who also defrag every day.. and
>>> when I do maintenance which includes defragging, I feel/see a
>>> noticeable difference .. so I keep doing it.. I am on my computer a
>>> great deal, and have a maintenance plan... which works for me..
>>
>>
>>
>> What you do is of course up to you, but I'll throw in an opinion
>> anyway.Defragging anywhere near once a day is *enormous* overkill.
>> If you notice an improvement by doing so, I suspect that it's just
>> your perception, and is in the nature of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>> You see what you expect to see.
>>
>> Defragging once a *month* is more than most people need to do.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

Rainy wrote:

> I think what I will do is let it go for a week.. just to see if there
> is a lot of fragmented files.. and what the difference would be.. I'm
> not so set in my ways that I can't change what I am doing, especially
> if it's really not working for me.. thanks for the response! Rainy


You're welcome. I think even once a week is considerably more often than
almost everyone needs, but see how it turns out and let us know.

The problem, of course, is that there's no easy way to measure overall
performance differences and you have to go by a subjective feeling about the
improvement. If we are too convinced that what we believe is correct, our
subjective measurement of the difference almost always reinforces what we
think we know.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake DeleteThis @this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:u1t93pokGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Rainy wrote:
>
>> I appreciate your response, but that is your opinion that defragging
>> every day is totally unnecessary... I believe that it helps my
>> computer.. I know of other techs who also defrag every day.. and
>> when I do maintenance which includes defragging, I feel/see a
>> noticeable difference .. so I keep doing it.. I am on my computer a
>> great deal, and have a maintenance plan... which works for me..
>
>
>
> What you do is of course up to you, but I'll throw in an opinion
> anyway.Defragging anywhere near once a day is *enormous* overkill. If
> you notice an improvement by doing so, I suspect that it's just your
> perception, and is in the nature of a self-fulfilling prophecy. You
> see what you expect to see.
>
> Defragging once a *month* is more than most people need to do.
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

thanks so much.. was the last paragraph english.. I had to read it
several times to figure it out.. Just kidding you... yes I know what you
mean.. and thanks so much for enlightening me.. I love this group.. and have
learned a great deal.. now if I can only remember what I learned.. lol
thanks Rainy
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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Rainy wrote:

> I think what I will do is let it go for a week.. just to see if there
> is a lot of fragmented files.. and what the difference would be.. I'm
> not so set in my ways that I can't change what I am doing, especially
> if it's really not working for me.. thanks for the response! Rainy


You're welcome. I think even once a week is considerably more often than
almost everyone needs, but see how it turns out and let us know.

The problem, of course, is that there's no easy way to measure overall
performance differences and you have to go by a subjective feeling about the
improvement. If we are too convinced that what we believe is correct, our
subjective measurement of the difference almost always reinforces what we
think we know.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:u1t93pokGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Rainy wrote:
>
>> I appreciate your response, but that is your opinion that defragging
>> every day is totally unnecessary... I believe that it helps my
>> computer.. I know of other techs who also defrag every day.. and
>> when I do maintenance which includes defragging, I feel/see a
>> noticeable difference .. so I keep doing it.. I am on my computer a
>> great deal, and have a maintenance plan... which works for me..
>
>
>
> What you do is of course up to you, but I'll throw in an opinion
> anyway.Defragging anywhere near once a day is *enormous* overkill. If
> you notice an improvement by doing so, I suspect that it's just your
> perception, and is in the nature of a self-fulfilling prophecy. You
> see what you expect to see.
>
> Defragging once a *month* is more than most people need to do.
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size 

Rainy wrote:

> thanks so much.. was the last paragraph english.. I had to read it
> several times to figure it out.. Just kidding you... yes I know what
> you mean.. and thanks so much for enlightening me.. I love this
> group.. and have learned a great deal.. now if I can only remember
> what I learned.. lol thanks Rainy


You're welcome, Rainy.

--
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Please reply to the newsgroup


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake RemoveThis @this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:e3RAAqukGHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Rainy wrote:
>
>> I think what I will do is let it go for a week.. just to see if there
>> is a lot of fragmented files.. and what the difference would be.. I'm
>> not so set in my ways that I can't change what I am doing, especially
>> if it's really not working for me.. thanks for the response! Rainy
>
>
> You're welcome. I think even once a week is considerably more often
> than almost everyone needs, but see how it turns out and let us know.
>
> The problem, of course, is that there's no easy way to measure overall
> performance differences and you have to go by a subjective feeling
> about the improvement. If we are too convinced that what we believe
> is correct, our subjective measurement of the difference almost
> always reinforces what we think we know.
>
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake RemoveThis @this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:u1t93pokGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Rainy wrote:
>>
>>> I appreciate your response, but that is your opinion that defragging
>>> every day is totally unnecessary... I believe that it helps my
>>> computer.. I know of other techs who also defrag every day.. and
>>> when I do maintenance which includes defragging, I feel/see a
>>> noticeable difference .. so I keep doing it.. I am on my computer a
>>> great deal, and have a maintenance plan... which works for me..
>>
>>
>>
>> What you do is of course up to you, but I'll throw in an opinion
>> anyway.Defragging anywhere near once a day is *enormous* overkill. If
>> you notice an improvement by doing so, I suspect that it's just your
>> perception, and is in the nature of a self-fulfilling prophecy. You
>> see what you expect to see.
>>
>> Defragging once a *month* is more than most people need to do.
 >> Stay informed about: MFT Size