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hufaunder

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:11 pm
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I am traveling to Europe and will have to bring my own DSL modem. I
have an Alcatel Speed Touch Home DSL modem from Earthlink. Will this
modem also work in Europe?

Thanks

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PhilT

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:00 am
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hufaunder.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am traveling to Europe and will have to bring my own DSL modem. I
> have an Alcatel Speed Touch Home DSL modem from Earthlink. Will this
> modem also work in Europe?

DSL isn't dialup - unless there is a service provisioned on the phone
line (10 days notice required) the modem will be as much use as a
housebrick. If there is a service there will be a modem/router anyway
so what are you hoping to achieve ?

Phil

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Jim Howes

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:58 am
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hufaunder DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> I am traveling to Europe and will have to bring my own DSL modem. I
> have an Alcatel Speed Touch Home DSL modem from Earthlink. Will this
> modem also work in Europe?

Assuming by europe you mean UK (other countries may vary (although the jury is
out on that one), and you did post to uk.telecom.broadband) then...

If it can support G.DMT modulation, and PPP over ATM, and of course has a power
supply that will work with 230V, then probably, yes.

If any one of those is a no (apart, perhaps from the power supply angle which
may be irrelvant if it is a USB device) then probably, no.
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NoNeedToKnow

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:59 am
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On 30 Oct 2006, hufaunder.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:

>I am traveling to Europe and will have to bring my own DSL modem.

Why?

(Also, Europe is a fairly big place, and some parts still may have limited
services, or different services, to any you have at home... Surely you
will be better off not expecting anything you are using at present to
work, and setting up with suitable (local) kit wherever you end up.)
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:58 am
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Hi,

Can't speak for other countries and cities, but traveled to Paris a few
times with a Buffalo wireless router (and eventually left there) for
Internet sharing in the household.

Other than bringing a converter for power adapter, I experienced no issues,
and that's why I left there for good.


<hufaunder.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I am traveling to Europe and will have to bring my own DSL modem. I
> have an Alcatel Speed Touch Home DSL modem from Earthlink. Will this
> modem also work in Europe?
>
> Thanks
>
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hufaunder

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:34 am
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xfile,

Thanks for the response. That was actually quite useful. In my case I
will use the modem in Germany and Switzerland. Does anybody have any
experience with these countries or at least has some educated guess?

For everybody else, yes, there is already ADSL there. The problem is
that the modem there only has a USB connection which makes it
impossible to hook it up to a wireless router.

Thanks
xfile wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can't speak for other countries and cities, but traveled to Paris a few
> times with a Buffalo wireless router (and eventually left there) for
> Internet sharing in the household.
>
> Other than bringing a converter for power adapter, I experienced no issues,
> and that's why I left there for good.
>
>
> <hufaunder.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162264287.316191.241030@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >I am traveling to Europe and will have to bring my own DSL modem. I
> > have an Alcatel Speed Touch Home DSL modem from Earthlink. Will this
> > modem also work in Europe?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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Ivor Jones

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:03 pm
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<hufaunder.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> xfile,
>
> Thanks for the response. That was actually quite useful.
> In my case I will use the modem in Germany and
> Switzerland. Does anybody have any experience with these
> countries or at least has some educated guess?
>
> For everybody else, yes, there is already ADSL there. The
> problem is that the modem there only has a USB connection
> which makes it impossible to hook it up to a wireless
> router.

Germany uses Annex B (ADSL over ISDN) which is incompatible with Annex A
(ADSL over analogue POTS) as used in the UK and most other places. A
modem/router designed for Germany won't work elsewhere. There are hardware
differences, not just firmware.

There used to be a device made which will do what you want, it was the
Draytek Vigor 2200USB and was a 4-port router with a USB connection for a
modem. It was designed for use in cases where ISP's restricted users to
their own USB modems. This no longer applies so the device isn't available
any more although you might find one on eBay if you're lucky.

Ivor
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nospamdeleteabusedave

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:02 pm
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In message <4qphduFo6uqkU1.DeleteThis@individual.net>, Ivor Jones
<ivor.DeleteThis@despammed.invalid> writes
>There used to be a device made which will do what you want, it was the
>Draytek Vigor 2200USB and was a 4-port router with a USB connection for
>a modem. It was designed for use in cases where ISP's restricted users
>to their own USB modems. This no longer applies so the device isn't
>available any more although you might find one on eBay if you're lucky.

Item 170041710175 - I'm not the seller.

--
dave @ stejonda
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NoNeedToKnow

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:02 pm
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On 31 Oct 2006, hufaunder DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:

>In my case I will use the modem in Germany and Switzerland.

Sorry, no knowledge of what's in use in Switzerland, but in Germany
you might need to have Annex B compatibility. I was just looking
at some low cost units for some friends, and happened to notice
the ZyXEL Prestige 660R-61C Compact Router is capable (and costs
under US$ 50... in case you find you want to buy something when
you are in Europe), it can also handle ASDL 2/2+. Enjoy your stay.
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Ivor Jones

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:02 pm
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"dave @ stejonda"
<nospamdeleteabusedave DeleteThis @stejonda.freeuk.com> wrote in
message news:js0GQ8Fxb5RFFAhq@privacy.net
> In message <4qphduFo6uqkU1 DeleteThis @individual.net>, Ivor Jones
> <ivor DeleteThis @despammed.invalid> writes
> > There used to be a device made which will do what you
> > want, it was the Draytek Vigor 2200USB and was a 4-port
> > router with a USB connection for a modem. It was
> > designed for use in cases where ISP's restricted users
> > to their own USB modems. This no longer applies so the
> > device isn't available any more although you might find
> > one on eBay if you're lucky.
>
> Item 170041710175 - I'm not the seller.

That's the beast. They were very expensive when they came out, ISTR paying
over £150 for mine..! I only sold it because there were incompatibilities
between it and the ATA (Grandstream HT486) I was using at the time.

Ivor
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Graham

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:01 pm
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[snip]

> Germany uses Annex B (ADSL over ISDN) which is incompatible with Annex A
> (ADSL over analogue POTS) as used in the UK and most other places. A
> modem/router designed for Germany won't work elsewhere. There are hardware
> differences, not just firmware.

Question: do all German subscribers have ISDN, so the only possibility is
ADSL over ISDN?? If not, presumably you have to find out which is provided
at your chosen location.

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Ivor Jones

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:02 pm
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"Graham" <graham.RemoveThis@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> [snip]
>
> > Germany uses Annex B (ADSL over ISDN) which is
> > incompatible with Annex A (ADSL over analogue POTS) as
> > used in the UK and most other places. A modem/router
> > designed for Germany won't work elsewhere. There are
> > hardware differences, not just firmware.
>
> Question: do all German subscribers have ISDN, so the
> only possibility is ADSL over ISDN?? If not, presumably
> you have to find out which is provided at your chosen
> location.

Now that I don't know, I'll have to ask a friend who lives there if he
knows.

Ivor
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Gundemarie Scholz

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:58 am
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[quoting adjusted]

Fat Kev [Fat B@stard] wrote:
> Gundemarie Scholz wrote:
[technical stuff snipped]
> Has Germany got anything that we all have so that we can understand
> them!!

Does beer count? (o:

Regards,
Gunde
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Ivor Jones

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:01 am
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"Gundemarie Scholz" <spamyousilly.DeleteThis@inbox.ru> wrote in
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> [quoting adjusted]
>
> Fat Kev [Fat B@stard] wrote:
> > Gundemarie Scholz wrote:
> [technical stuff snipped]
> > Has Germany got anything that we all have so that we
> > can understand them!!
>
> Does beer count? (o:

Indeed it does, I had some particularly good Schlösser when I was in
Düsseldorf in May Smile

Ivor
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