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dewey3

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:34 pm
Post subject: where is ythe toggle for mainataing settings between session
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I have finally decided Quick Launch makes more sense than keeping things on
the desktop. Problem is, everytime I turn on the computer the quick launch
bar is disabled and I have to go in and activate it again.

I have searched all over for the setting that ensures new preferences are
saved at the end of the session; but darned if I can remember where it is.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Regards,

Dewey

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:18 pm
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Quick Launch may not be stored for next session if the account is a
"limited" user. Quick Launch seems to always work with "Administrator" type
account (a least for me!)


"Dewey" <Dewey.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have finally decided Quick Launch makes more sense than keeping things on
> the desktop. Problem is, everytime I turn on the computer the quick
> launch
> bar is disabled and I have to go in and activate it again.
>
> I have searched all over for the setting that ensures new preferences are
> saved at the end of the session; but darned if I can remember where it is.
>
> Can anyone enlighten me?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dewey

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:56 am
Post subject: Re: where is ythe toggle for mainataing settings between ses [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Yves,

My account is an Admin account. any other thoughts?

Regards,

Dewey

"Yves Leclerc" wrote:

> Quick Launch may not be stored for next session if the account is a
> "limited" user. Quick Launch seems to always work with "Administrator" type
> account (a least for me!)
>
>
> "Dewey" <Dewey DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5E725979-A613-4190-B38F-E9C894B9E91C@microsoft.com...
> >I have finally decided Quick Launch makes more sense than keeping things on
> > the desktop. Problem is, everytime I turn on the computer the quick
> > launch
> > bar is disabled and I have to go in and activate it again.
> >
> > I have searched all over for the setting that ensures new preferences are
> > saved at the end of the session; but darned if I can remember where it is.
> >
> > Can anyone enlighten me?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dewey
>
>
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:15 am
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This also fixes a rare problem where QL won't hang around.

Delete these keys or values from the registry. This will reset many things
like saved folder settings.
Type Regedit in Start - Run
Click Start - Turn Off Computer (or maybe Shutdown) - Ctrl + Alt + Shift +
click Cancel (or Close) (your Desktop and Start Menu now disappear). This is
a clean shutdown unlike using Task Manager.


In Regedit navigate to each of these keys and delete them
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer and
delete the value
Shellstate

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Cabinet
State and delete the value
Settings

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
MRU (may not exist)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\BagMRU
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags
[the above one is what reset deletes, 90% of the time it is sufficient but
10% of the time the BagMRU needs to be deleted too. If you know what cross
linked files are the same thing is happening here - the BagMRU point to the
wrong Bag or serveral BagMRU point to the same bag]



Then in Task Manager, File - Run type explorer. (Start menu and Desktop come
back).

You then need to reconfigure explorer and the desktop.

===================================================================

Understanding Saved Views and Browsing Folders
In Windows 2000 Professional, the view you use is not always permanently
saved in Windows Explorer. You can control whether the views you use are
saved permanently or temporarily by using the Remember each folder's view
settings check box on the View tab of the Folder Options dialog box (see
figure 9.3).

By default the Remember each folder's view settings option is enabled. When
you choose to leave this setting enabled, the following happens:

a.. The changes you make to a folder's view is automatically saved when
you close the folder.
b.. The view you use to view one folder is not applied to other folders.
c.. When you open a folder, it opens in the view you used when you last
viewed it.
When you clear the check box for Remember each folder's view settings, the
following happens:

a.. When you start Windows Explorer, the first folder you view displays in
the folder's saved view. Windows Explorer holds that view in temporary
memory and applies it to all the folders that you visit while Windows
Explorer remains open unless you manually alter the view.
b.. As you browse to other folders (after the initial folder is opened),
the saved view for each folder is ignored, and when you quit Windows
Explorer, the folder view that you have been using to view multiple folders
is deleted from temporary memory.
c.. The next time you open Windows Explorer, once again, it is the saved
view of the first folder you open that determines how you view multiple
folders.
Setting All Folders to the Same View
Some users want to have all their Windows Explorer folders set to the same
view. In Windows 2000 Professional, the default setting is that any change
made to a folder's view is automatically saved when you close the folder and
is not applied to other folders. However, you can set all folders to the
same view by using the Folder Options command as described in the following
procedure.

To set all folders to the same view
1.. In My Computer or Windows Explorer, set the view to your preference.
2.. On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
3.. In the Folder Options dialog box, click the View tab.
4.. Under Folder Views, click Like Current Folder.
Important The Remember each folder's view settings check box on the View tab
of the Folder Options dialog box (see Figure 9.3) affects how the view
settings of individual folders are applied and saved. For more information
about the impact of clearing this check box, see "Understanding Saved Views
and Browsing Folders" earlier in this chapter.

Windows 2000 Resource Kit

==========================================================================

And check

NoSaveSettings
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
Data type Range Default value
REG_DWORD 0 | 1 0

Description
Prevents users from saving certain changes to the
desktop. Users can change the desktop, but some changes,
such as the positions of open windows and the size and
position of the taskbar, are not saved when users log
off. Shortcuts placed on the desktop are always saved.

This entry stores the setting of the Don't save settings
at exit Group Policy. Group Policy adds this entry to the
registry with a value of 1 when you enable the policy. If
you disable the policy or set it to Not configured, Group
Policy deletes the entry from the registry and the system
behaves as though the value is 0.

Value Meaning
0 (or not in registry) The policy is disabled or
not configured. Changes to the desktop are saved.
1 The policy is enabled. Some changes to the desktop are not saved.

Windows 2000 Resource Kit Reference

============================================================================

Saved folder settings are stored in BagMRU. Defaults and network/removable
drives are stored in Streams key (as everything was in earlier versions).

You have to do Apply To All while in a file folder.
For each type of object (File Folder, Control Panel, My Computer, etc) that
you do an Apply to All in it's clsid and the settings are created/updated at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
\Defaults

{F3364BA0-65B9-11CE-A9BA-00AA004AE837} is ordinary folders, and other
numbers are what ever they are (My Comp, Control Panel, etc - note My Docs
is an ordinary folder). They only appear IF you do an apply to all in that
type of object.

as well as a higher set of defaults at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
Settings=

So the point being in the order that you do things. You want to do your
overall default setting last. This is how I advised someone who asked

> Can someone please tell me how to force Windows to keep
> the seperate folder view settings I choose? I have
> checked and rechecked the box in folder options for it to
> remember, but it has no memory for that issue. To be more
> specific; I want to always have the thumbnail view in My
> Pictures and also in the Control Panel Dialog, but every
> time I open them I have to manually set that view.


Set Control Panel how you want then Tools - View - Apply To All Folders.
This sets the global default and the Control Panel type of objects defaults
(but the system default remains the same - it can't be changed but all other
defaults/settings override it). Then go to an ordinary folder (as My Pics is
for this feature) and set it how you want all folders but CP. Then Tools -
View - Apply To All Folders. This sets the global default and the file
folder type of object defaults (CP's default settings will still override
the global). Then set My Pics how you want it and do nothing else as we are
saving it by the checkbox Remember Folder Settings AND BY THE PATH WE GOT
THERE. EG

Desktop\My Comp\C:\Documents & Settings\user name\My Docs\My Pics
is a different setting to
Desktop\My Comp\My Docs\My Pics

There is some searching for similar settings but the path used, if too
different, means it won't find the settings for similar named folders.

The system defaults (and saved settings for individual folders already
opened) are the only setting unless you've done an Apply To All, eg no
global or type defaults.



Plus if you hold down control and click close while in a file folder it also
updates
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
Shellstate=

This is mainly setting irrelevent things except it holds the global sort,
which all the others override. But File Open dialog boxes only use this
setting, so it basically only affects sorting in File Open dialogs. But it
seems that sometimes an earlier windows versions setting get written here
and other settings then aren't saved

typedef struct {
BOOL fShowAllObjects:1;
BOOL fShowExtensions:1;
BOOL fNoConfirmRecycle:1;
BOOL fShowSysFiles:1;
BOOL fShowCompColor:1;
BOOL fDoubleClickInWebView:1;
BOOL fDesktopHTML:1;
BOOL fWin95Classic:1;
BOOL fDontPrettyPath:1;
BOOL fShowAttribCol:1;
BOOL fMapNetDrvBtn:1;
BOOL fShowInfoTip:1;
BOOL fHideIcons:1;
BOOL fWebView:1;
BOOL fFilter:1;
BOOL fShowSuperHidden:1;
BOOL fNoNetCrawling:1;
DWORD dwWin95Unused;
UINT uWin95Unused;
LONG lParamSort;
int iSortDirection;
UINT version;
UINT uNotUsed;
BOOL fSepProcess:1;
BOOL fStartPanelOn:1;
BOOL fShowStartPage:1;
UINT fSpareFlags:13;
} SHELLSTATE, *LPSHSHELLSTATE;





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"Dewey" <Dewey.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9124DF6F-AD37-4F57-9522-1DC028C7B209@microsoft.com...
> Yves,
>
> My account is an Admin account. any other thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dewey
>
> "Yves Leclerc" wrote:
>
>> Quick Launch may not be stored for next session if the account is a
>> "limited" user. Quick Launch seems to always work with "Administrator" type
>> account (a least for me!)
>>
>>
>> "Dewey" <Dewey.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5E725979-A613-4190-B38F-E9C894B9E91C@microsoft.com...
>> >I have finally decided Quick Launch makes more sense than keeping things on
>> > the desktop. Problem is, everytime I turn on the computer the quick
>> > launch
>> > bar is disabled and I have to go in and activate it again.
>> >
>> > I have searched all over for the setting that ensures new preferences are
>> > saved at the end of the session; but darned if I can remember where it is.
>> >
>> > Can anyone enlighten me?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Dewey
>>
>>
>>
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craig

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Since: Mar 19, 2005
Posts: 6



(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:33 pm
Post subject: Re: where is ythe toggle for mainataing settings between ses [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

not as "rare" as one might think. It is epidemic in my environment. I will
read your explanations- thanks. all other searches have ended with lame
"userinit" explanation. here it is not a spyware issue, but we clone pcs and
if we messed up explorer in the image, then it would make sense they are all
broken!!

we'll test this out thanks
--
system engineer


"David Candy" wrote:

> This also fixes a rare problem where QL won't hang around.
>
> Delete these keys or values from the registry. This will reset many things
> like saved folder settings.
> Type Regedit in Start - Run
> Click Start - Turn Off Computer (or maybe Shutdown) - Ctrl + Alt + Shift +
> click Cancel (or Close) (your Desktop and Start Menu now disappear). This is
> a clean shutdown unlike using Task Manager.
>
>
> In Regedit navigate to each of these keys and delete them
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer and
> delete the value
> Shellstate
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Cabinet
> State and delete the value
> Settings
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
> MRU (may not exist)
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\BagMRU
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags
> [the above one is what reset deletes, 90% of the time it is sufficient but
> 10% of the time the BagMRU needs to be deleted too. If you know what cross
> linked files are the same thing is happening here - the BagMRU point to the
> wrong Bag or serveral BagMRU point to the same bag]
>
>
>
> Then in Task Manager, File - Run type explorer. (Start menu and Desktop come
> back).
>
> You then need to reconfigure explorer and the desktop.
>
> ===================================================================
>
> Understanding Saved Views and Browsing Folders
> In Windows 2000 Professional, the view you use is not always permanently
> saved in Windows Explorer. You can control whether the views you use are
> saved permanently or temporarily by using the Remember each folder's view
> settings check box on the View tab of the Folder Options dialog box (see
> figure 9.3).
>
> By default the Remember each folder's view settings option is enabled. When
> you choose to leave this setting enabled, the following happens:
>
> a.. The changes you make to a folder's view is automatically saved when
> you close the folder.
> b.. The view you use to view one folder is not applied to other folders.
> c.. When you open a folder, it opens in the view you used when you last
> viewed it.
> When you clear the check box for Remember each folder's view settings, the
> following happens:
>
> a.. When you start Windows Explorer, the first folder you view displays in
> the folder's saved view. Windows Explorer holds that view in temporary
> memory and applies it to all the folders that you visit while Windows
> Explorer remains open unless you manually alter the view.
> b.. As you browse to other folders (after the initial folder is opened),
> the saved view for each folder is ignored, and when you quit Windows
> Explorer, the folder view that you have been using to view multiple folders
> is deleted from temporary memory.
> c.. The next time you open Windows Explorer, once again, it is the saved
> view of the first folder you open that determines how you view multiple
> folders.
> Setting All Folders to the Same View
> Some users want to have all their Windows Explorer folders set to the same
> view. In Windows 2000 Professional, the default setting is that any change
> made to a folder's view is automatically saved when you close the folder and
> is not applied to other folders. However, you can set all folders to the
> same view by using the Folder Options command as described in the following
> procedure.
>
> To set all folders to the same view
> 1.. In My Computer or Windows Explorer, set the view to your preference.
> 2.. On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
> 3.. In the Folder Options dialog box, click the View tab.
> 4.. Under Folder Views, click Like Current Folder.
> Important The Remember each folder's view settings check box on the View tab
> of the Folder Options dialog box (see Figure 9.3) affects how the view
> settings of individual folders are applied and saved. For more information
> about the impact of clearing this check box, see "Understanding Saved Views
> and Browsing Folders" earlier in this chapter.
>
> Windows 2000 Resource Kit
>
> ==========================================================================
>
> And check
>
> NoSaveSettings
> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
> Data type Range Default value
> REG_DWORD 0 | 1 0
>
> Description
> Prevents users from saving certain changes to the
> desktop. Users can change the desktop, but some changes,
> such as the positions of open windows and the size and
> position of the taskbar, are not saved when users log
> off. Shortcuts placed on the desktop are always saved.
>
> This entry stores the setting of the Don't save settings
> at exit Group Policy. Group Policy adds this entry to the
> registry with a value of 1 when you enable the policy. If
> you disable the policy or set it to Not configured, Group
> Policy deletes the entry from the registry and the system
> behaves as though the value is 0.
>
> Value Meaning
> 0 (or not in registry) The policy is disabled or
> not configured. Changes to the desktop are saved.
> 1 The policy is enabled. Some changes to the desktop are not saved.
>
> Windows 2000 Resource Kit Reference
>
> ============================================================================
>
> Saved folder settings are stored in BagMRU. Defaults and network/removable
> drives are stored in Streams key (as everything was in earlier versions).
>
> You have to do Apply To All while in a file folder.
> For each type of object (File Folder, Control Panel, My Computer, etc) that
> you do an Apply to All in it's clsid and the settings are created/updated at
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
> \Defaults
>
> {F3364BA0-65B9-11CE-A9BA-00AA004AE837} is ordinary folders, and other
> numbers are what ever they are (My Comp, Control Panel, etc - note My Docs
> is an ordinary folder). They only appear IF you do an apply to all in that
> type of object.
>
> as well as a higher set of defaults at
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
> Settings=
>
> So the point being in the order that you do things. You want to do your
> overall default setting last. This is how I advised someone who asked
>
> > Can someone please tell me how to force Windows to keep
> > the seperate folder view settings I choose? I have
> > checked and rechecked the box in folder options for it to
> > remember, but it has no memory for that issue. To be more
> > specific; I want to always have the thumbnail view in My
> > Pictures and also in the Control Panel Dialog, but every
> > time I open them I have to manually set that view.
>
>
> Set Control Panel how you want then Tools - View - Apply To All Folders.
> This sets the global default and the Control Panel type of objects defaults
> (but the system default remains the same - it can't be changed but all other
> defaults/settings override it). Then go to an ordinary folder (as My Pics is
> for this feature) and set it how you want all folders but CP. Then Tools -
> View - Apply To All Folders. This sets the global default and the file
> folder type of object defaults (CP's default settings will still override
> the global). Then set My Pics how you want it and do nothing else as we are
> saving it by the checkbox Remember Folder Settings AND BY THE PATH WE GOT
> THERE. EG
>
> Desktop\My Comp\C:\Documents & Settings\user name\My Docs\My Pics
> is a different setting to
> Desktop\My Comp\My Docs\My Pics
>
> There is some searching for similar settings but the path used, if too
> different, means it won't find the settings for similar named folders.
>
> The system defaults (and saved settings for individual folders already
> opened) are the only setting unless you've done an Apply To All, eg no
> global or type defaults.
>
>
>
> Plus if you hold down control and click close while in a file folder it also
> updates
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
> Shellstate=
>
> This is mainly setting irrelevent things except it holds the global sort,
> which all the others override. But File Open dialog boxes only use this
> setting, so it basically only affects sorting in File Open dialogs. But it
> seems that sometimes an earlier windows versions setting get written here
> and other settings then aren't saved
>
> typedef struct {
> BOOL fShowAllObjects:1;
> BOOL fShowExtensions:1;
> BOOL fNoConfirmRecycle:1;
> BOOL fShowSysFiles:1;
> BOOL fShowCompColor:1;
> BOOL fDoubleClickInWebView:1;
> BOOL fDesktopHTML:1;
> BOOL fWin95Classic:1;
> BOOL fDontPrettyPath:1;
> BOOL fShowAttribCol:1;
> BOOL fMapNetDrvBtn:1;
> BOOL fShowInfoTip:1;
> BOOL fHideIcons:1;
> BOOL fWebView:1;
> BOOL fFilter:1;
> BOOL fShowSuperHidden:1;
> BOOL fNoNetCrawling:1;
> DWORD dwWin95Unused;
> UINT uWin95Unused;
> LONG lParamSort;
> int iSortDirection;
> UINT version;
> UINT uNotUsed;
> BOOL fSepProcess:1;
> BOOL fStartPanelOn:1;
> BOOL fShowStartPage:1;
> UINT fSpareFlags:13;
> } SHELLSTATE, *LPSHSHELLSTATE;
>
>
>
>
>
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
> =================================================
> "Dewey" <Dewey DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9124DF6F-AD37-4F57-9522-1DC028C7B209@microsoft.com...
> > Yves,
> >
> > My account is an Admin account. any other thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dewey
> >
> > "Yves Leclerc" wrote:
> >
> >> Quick Launch may not be stored for next session if the account is a
> >> "limited" user. Quick Launch seems to always work with "Administrator" type
> >> account (a least for me!)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dewey" <Dewey DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5E725979-A613-4190-B38F-E9C894B9E91C@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have finally decided Quick Launch makes more sense than keeping things on
> >> > the desktop. Problem is, everytime I turn on the computer the quick
> >> > launch
> >> > bar is disabled and I have to go in and activate it again.
> >> >
> >> > I have searched all over for the setting that ensures new preferences are
> >> > saved at the end of the session; but darned if I can remember where it is.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone enlighten me?
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Dewey
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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