Can I move an OEM WinXP HDD to a new machine?

Hmm I think we need to NOT buy MS
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004.TakeThisOut@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You have confirmed how little knowledge you have of
> the restrictions of OEM licensing agreements.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
>
> "Alias" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004.TakeThisOut@nospamyahoo.com> wrote
>>
>> > It certainly applies to an end-user! You have no clue as
>> > to the licensing stipulations of OEM versions of Windows
>> > XP. Please refrain from responding to questions regarding
>> > OEM licensing since your replys are purely non-sense,
>> > mis-leading, confusing, and do more harm then good
>> > to the OP who is seeking trustworthy advice!
>> >
>> > Direct quotes from the Resourc Guide to Windows Licensing:
>> >
>> > "OEM Windows Desktop operating systems preinstalled on a PC
>> > CANNOT BE TRANSFERRED or reassigned to another machine.
>> > The license is ALWAYS TIED to the ORIGINAL SYSTEM in which it
>> > was installed, even if the PC is no longer in use. The software
>> > media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be
>> > transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed
>> > is also transferred."
>> >
>> > "OEM versions are intended for system builders only and cannot be
>> > transferred to another PC once it is installed. Purchasers of this
>> > software
>> > are required to comply with the terms of the System Builder License,
>> > including responsibility for providing all end-user support."
>> >
>> > --
>> > Carey Frisch
>> > Microsoft MVP
>> > Windows XP - Shell/User
>>
>> Um, who said anything about transfering the OS to another PC? He is
>> upgrading his PC by replacing a few components and that's perfectly
>> kosher
>> and you know it. Do you get some kind of vicarious thrill from scaring
>> newbies into buying a retail version of Windows? Upgrading or replacing a
>> motherboard is not mentioned in the END USER'S -- NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH
>> SYSTEM BUILDER THAT YOUR COPY AND PASTE ADDRESSES, EULA. Period. I have
>> three OEM EULAs, two in Spanish and one in English and NONE of them say
>> ANYTHING about a motherboard being the defining hardware that constitutes
>> a
>> computer and, if I want to upgrade from a Mobo that can only take 2x AGP
>> to
>> one that can take 8x, I can. Or if I want to upgrade to one that can take
>> 333 memory instead of 266, I can. Essentially, over time, I could upgrade
>> the computer's components completely except for one screw and it will
>> still
>> only be installed on ONE computer and not transferred to another. Yaknow,
>> a
>> PC, not a MAC.
>>
>> Alias
>> >
>> >
>> > "Alias" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004.TakeThisOut@nospamyahoo.com> wrote
>> >>
>> >> > Q. Can a PC with OEM Windows XP have its motherboard upgraded and
>> >> > keep
>> >> > the
>> >> > same license? What if it was replaced because it was defective?
>> >> >
>> >> > A. Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware
>> >> > components
>> >> > on
>> >> > your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license
>> >> > for
>> >> > the
>> >> > original MicrosoftÃ,® OEM operating system software, with the
>> >> > exception of
>> >> > an
>> >> > upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. An upgrade of the
>> >> > motherboard
>> >> > is
>> >> > considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which
>> >> > MicrosoftÃ,® OEM
>> >> > operating system software cannot be transferred from another
>> >> > computer.
>> >> > If
>> >> > the
>> >> > motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect,
>> >> > then
>> >> > a
>> >> > new computer has been created and the license of new operating
>> >> > system
>> >> > software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is
>> >> > defective,
>> >> > you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the
>> >> > PC.
>> >> >
>> >> > The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the end-user
>> >> > license
>> >> > agreement (EULA) and the support of the software covered by that
>> >> > EULA.
>> >> > The
>> >> > EULA is a set of usage rights granted to the end-user by the PC
>> >> > manufacturer
>> >> > and relates only to rights for that software as installed on for
>> >> > that
>> >> > particular PC. The System Builder is required to support the
>> >> > software
>> >> > on
>> >> > that
>> >> > original PC. Understanding that end users, over time, upgrade their
>> >> > PC
>> >> > with
>> >> > different components, Microsoft needed to have one base component
>> >> > "left
>> >> > standing" that would still define that original PC. Since the
>> >> > motherboard
>> >> > contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC, when the
>> >> > motherboard
>> >> > is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially
>> >> > created.
>> >> > The original System Builder, therefore, can not be expected to
>> >> > support
>> >> > this
>> >> > new PC that they in effect, did not manufacture.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Carey Frisch
>> >>
>> >> Why oh why do you insist on posting this that does not apply to an end
>> >> user,
>> >> Carey? It's been pointed out to you numerous times yet you keep
>> >> posting
>> >> it.
>> >> Are you dense or what?
>> >>
>> >> Alias
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Did they actuall y agree?? Are shrink wrap EULAS legal and enforceable??
Has MS every fought to enforce one?? I bet not!
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004 DeleteThis @nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> No, unless you wish to become a liar and a fraud.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
>
> "DevilsPGD" wrote:
>
>> In message <#SU0xTN2FHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl> "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
>> <cnfrisch DeleteThis @nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >You may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on
>> >your computer and maintain the license for the
>> >OEM operating system software, with the exception of an
>> >upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.
>> >
>> >An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
>> >computer"
>> > to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be reused.
>> >If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a
>> >defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new
>> >operating system
>> >software is required.
>>
>> So if I damage the old motherboard then I'm okay to go?
>>
>> --
>> Do not taunt zombie badgers
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