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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:23 am
Post subject: How to make an Update CD?
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I am making a Windows 98 Second Edition update CD, It will have on it
Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1, Windows Media Player 10, Tweak UI 1.33,
and the Windows updates.
I read somewhere that there are 'corporate' versions of the Windows updates.
Is this true? Where are they?
Also I read that not all of the updates had been made in the corporate
versions. What's the story behind that, and has this issue been resolved?
What tips do you have for me to help me create a completely up-to-date
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:59 am
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First, Windows Media Player 10 will not run on Windows 98.
Second, there is no such thing as a "corporate update" that I know of.
There used to be a site where you could download updates other than Windows
Updates, and it used to be called the "Corporate Download" page, but it no
longer exists as Microsoft now has one download site for all types of
downloads.
Third, what you want to do is really not possible. Unlike the NT-based
Windows clients and servers where it is possible, the 9x-based systems use a
different setup and install methodology. It is possible to script Windows
98 setup to install some additional programs and updates but you cannot
update the contents of the CD itself.
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"Abraham" <Abraham.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am making a Windows 98 Second Edition update CD, It will have on it
> Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1, Windows Media Player 10, Tweak UI
> 1.33,
> and the Windows updates.
> I read somewhere that there are 'corporate' versions of the Windows
> updates.
> Is this true? Where are they?
> Also I read that not all of the updates had been made in the corporate
> versions. What's the story behind that, and has this issue been resolved?
>
> What tips do you have for me to help me create a completely up-to-date
> Windows, IE, WMP update CD?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:32 am
Post subject: Re: How to make an Update CD? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message
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> Third, what you want to do is really not possible.
It is. Microsoft did it, and so can he.
> Unlike the NT-based
> Windows clients and servers where it is possible, the 9x-based systems
use a
> different setup and install methodology. It is possible to script
Windows
> 98 setup to install some additional programs and updates but you cannot
> update the contents of the CD itself.
I think that you misinterpreted his intent. He didn't say anything
about updating the contents of the official Windows 98 SE CD.
It sound to me like he is simply creating a more up-to-date update CD
than the one-time Security Update CD that Microsoft issued Feb 2004.
He will end up with 2 CDs. The official Windows 98 SE CD,
and his home grown update CD containing all of the updates
available from the Windows Update site plus whatever else
he feels like throwing in there.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: How to make an Update CD? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:26 am
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True, but at best it will contain WMP 9 for a 98SE system. <bg>
"Hugh Candlin" <no DeleteThis @spam.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message
> news:Ou3RmuY8EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >
> > Third, what you want to do is really not possible.
>
> It is. Microsoft did it, and so can he.
>
> > Unlike the NT-based
> > Windows clients and servers where it is possible, the 9x-based systems
> use a
> > different setup and install methodology. It is possible to script
> Windows
> > 98 setup to install some additional programs and updates but you cannot
> > update the contents of the CD itself.
>
> I think that you misinterpreted his intent. He didn't say anything
> about updating the contents of the official Windows 98 SE CD.
>
> It sound to me like he is simply creating a more up-to-date update CD
> than the one-time Security Update CD that Microsoft issued Feb 2004.
>
> He will end up with 2 CDs. The official Windows 98 SE CD,
> and his home grown update CD containing all of the updates
> available from the Windows Update site plus whatever else
> he feels like throwing in there.
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:26 am
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"Dan" <spamyou RemoveThis @user.nec> wrote in message
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> True, but at best it will contain WMP 9 for a 98SE system. <bg>
>
Oh, the horror........
That would be almost as bad as Artwilder coming back to haunt us
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:28 am
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Hugh Candlin wrote:
<snip>
> That would be almost as bad as Artwilder coming back to haunt us
> with his meaningless, pointless posts.......
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I think Dan knows ArtWilder.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:38 pm
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Yeah, we were housemates but he has moved out but we are still friends.
Hugh, I am just trying to add some amusement. I will be more focused in the
future if you desire. I feel like I need to be the one to lighten the mood
sometimes. :>
"Mostly Me (MM)" <fakename DeleteThis @fakeisp.org> wrote in message
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> Hugh Candlin wrote:
> <snip>
> > That would be almost as bad as Artwilder coming back to haunt us
> > with his meaningless, pointless posts.......
> >
>
> I think Dan knows ArtWilder.
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> MM<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: How to make an Update CD? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:41 pm
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But that's a blessing. Who wants that bloatware? (I had it once, and
when I did my reinstall last time, I conveniently left it out)
I'd stick with WMP 6.4 and Winamp and MMJB. (YMMV)
Dan wrote:
> True, but at best it will contain WMP 9 for a 98SE system. <bg>
>
> "Hugh Candlin" <no.DeleteThis@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:O%2354Ula8EHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:Ou3RmuY8EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Third, what you want to do is really not possible.
>>
>> It is. Microsoft did it, and so can he.
>>
>>> Unlike the NT-based
>>> Windows clients and servers where it is possible, the 9x-based systems
use a
>>> different setup and install methodology. It is possible to script
Windows
>>> 98 setup to install some additional programs and updates but you cannot
>>> update the contents of the CD itself.
>>
>> I think that you misinterpreted his intent. He didn't say anything
>> about updating the contents of the official Windows 98 SE CD.
>>
>> It sound to me like he is simply creating a more up-to-date update CD
>> than the one-time Security Update CD that Microsoft issued Feb 2004.
>>
>> He will end up with 2 CDs. The official Windows 98 SE CD,
>> and his home grown update CD containing all of the updates
>> available from the Windows Update site plus whatever else
>> he feels like throwing in there.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: How to make an Update CD? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:33 pm
Post subject: Re: How to make an Update CD? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Only tip I have is to not forget the codecs packages for WMP.
Any recommendations of where to go to get these codec packages?
"Lee" wrote:
>
> Abraham wrote:
> > I am making a Windows 98 Second Edition update CD, It will have on it
>
> > Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1, Windows Media Player 10, Tweak UI
> 1.33,
> > and the Windows updates.
> > I read somewhere that there are 'corporate' versions of the Windows
> updates.
> > Is this true? Where are they?
> > Also I read that not all of the updates had been made in the
> corporate
> > versions. What's the story behind that, and has this issue been
> resolved?
> >
> > What tips do you have for me to help me create a completely
> up-to-date
> > Windows, IE, WMP update CD?
>
> As already noted, WMP 10 will not work with 98, 6.4 and 9 will work
> together on the same machine if you wanted to do that though.
>
> There is a Corporate site here
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp</font</a>>
>
> I suspect it's called that because the word corporate has always been
> in the url, it's had the same look and feel all along, there is a
> version of it for 95 as well. You are correct, not all the updates for
> 98 are at the corporate site and never have been, I suspect that they
> never will have the full array. For the fullest complement of updates
> you can not beat the Catalog site but note that it too is lacking in a
> couple areas, like all WMP versions for example, and offline
> installation packages for DirectX 9.0c. Get those directly from their
> 'home' sites.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx</font" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/default.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/default.asp</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp</font" target="_blank">http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp</font</a>>
> Only tip I have is to not forget the codecs packages for WMP.
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:52 pm
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Bill, if you were talking to me thanks -- anyway keep us informed about
how your version of IE performs and if your computer gets in trouble.
Hugh, by the horror, I was referring to Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness
and the point towards the end of the book when he says the horror, the
horror -- I should have known that some people would not catch my drift.
Anyway, no hard feelings and keep up the great work Hugh Candlin because you
really know computers. I am surprised that you are not an MVP by now.
"Bill in Co." <someone RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> But that's a blessing. Who wants that bloatware? (I had it once, and
> when I did my reinstall last time, I conveniently left it out)
>
> I'd stick with WMP 6.4 and Winamp and MMJB. (YMMV)
>
> Dan wrote:
> > True, but at best it will contain WMP 9 for a 98SE system. <bg>
> >
> > "Hugh Candlin" <no RemoveThis @spam.com> wrote in message
> > news:O%2354Ula8EHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper RemoveThis @email.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Ou3RmuY8EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >>>
> >>> Third, what you want to do is really not possible.
> >>
> >> It is. Microsoft did it, and so can he.
> >>
> >>> Unlike the NT-based
> >>> Windows clients and servers where it is possible, the 9x-based systems
> use a
> >>> different setup and install methodology. It is possible to script
> Windows
> >>> 98 setup to install some additional programs and updates but you
cannot
> >>> update the contents of the CD itself.
> >>
> >> I think that you misinterpreted his intent. He didn't say anything
> >> about updating the contents of the official Windows 98 SE CD.
> >>
> >> It sound to me like he is simply creating a more up-to-date update CD
> >> than the one-time Security Update CD that Microsoft issued Feb 2004.
> >>
> >> He will end up with 2 CDs. The official Windows 98 SE CD,
> >> and his home grown update CD containing all of the updates
> >> available from the Windows Update site plus whatever else
> >> he feels like throwing in there.
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:01 am
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The MS site used to have some codecs for WMP - I bet it still does. Or at
least it had some for the older versions.
Abraham wrote:
> Only tip I have is to not forget the codecs packages for WMP.
> Any recommendations of where to go to get these codec packages?
>
>
> "Lee" wrote:
>
>>
>> Abraham wrote:
>>> I am making a Windows 98 Second Edition update CD, It will have on it
>>
>>> Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1, Windows Media Player 10, Tweak UI
1.33,
>>> and the Windows updates.
>>> I read somewhere that there are 'corporate' versions of the Windows
updates.
>>> Is this true? Where are they?
>>> Also I read that not all of the updates had been made in the corporate
>>> versions. What's the story behind that, and has this issue been
resolved?
>>>
>>> What tips do you have for me to help me create a completely up-to-date
>>> Windows, IE, WMP update CD?
>>
>> As already noted, WMP 10 will not work with 98, 6.4 and 9 will work
>> together on the same machine if you wanted to do that though.
>>
>> There is a Corporate site here
<font color=green> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp</font</a>>
>>
>> I suspect it's called that because the word corporate has always been
>> in the url, it's had the same look and feel all along, there is a
>> version of it for 95 as well. You are correct, not all the updates for
>> 98 are at the corporate site and never have been, I suspect that they
>> never will have the full array. For the fullest complement of updates
>> you can not beat the Catalog site but note that it too is lacking in a
>> couple areas, like all WMP versions for example, and offline
>> installation packages for DirectX 9.0c. Get those directly from their
>> 'home' sites.
<font color=green> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx</font" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx</font</a>>
<font color=green> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/default.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/default.asp</font</a>>
<font color=green> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp</font" target="_blank">http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp</font</a>>
>> Only tip I have is to not forget the codecs packages for WMP.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: How to make an Update CD? |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:24 am
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"Abraham" <Abraham.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Only tip I have is to not forget the codecs packages for WMP.
> Any recommendations of where to go to get these codec packages?
>
Codec Installation Packages
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/format/codecdownload.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/format/codecdownload.aspx</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: How to make an Update CD? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:55 am
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What you need to do is research several sites & possibly even consult with
some 98SE gurus about which downloads & Plus programs are taboo. Example -
most 98SE users would not go near the Backup program that came w/98SE Plus.
I gave up on OE yrs. ago, & can usually find recent versions of Adobe,
DirectX, & IE (or Opera, etc.) on aftermarket disks.
MS used to have a way to save downloads to media instead of doing a direct
download after each re-boot.
Good luck.
Peace,
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:22 am
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Who are you replying to, Gonzojohn? Has to be a thread that's at least 30
days old, since yours is the only message I see. When you do that, it makes
it difficult on the rest of us, because we can't see the rest of the thread,
and it's even worse when you don't quote the previous material.
I seriously don't comprehend your last sentence. You can still download all
98 Updates and save them to whatever media you want to save them to, no
reboots involved -- or are you talking about something else?
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Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
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http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"gonzojohn" <gonzojohn DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> What you need to do is research several sites & possibly even consult with
> some 98SE gurus about which downloads & Plus programs are taboo. Example -
> most 98SE users would not go near the Backup program that came w/98SE
> Plus.
>
> I gave up on OE yrs. ago, & can usually find recent versions of Adobe,
> DirectX, & IE (or Opera, etc.) on aftermarket disks.
>
> MS used to have a way to save downloads to media instead of doing a direct
> download after each re-boot.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Peace,
> gj >> Stay informed about: How to make an Update CD? |
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