im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode

In Safe Mode, you can only get that primitive screen, because advanced drivers
won't be used for diagnostic reasons. If you still can get only the primitive
one in Normal Mode, then...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows

"START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck "VGA
640x480x16", & reboot.

"Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from the
Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. Really, you should need nothing
higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource considerations.

If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to click
the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.

Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it continues to
fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or Display Adapter...

For the Monitor...
(1) Boot to Safe Mode
(Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
(3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.

Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed
similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
(a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
(b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
(c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
(d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.
That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step (4).

(4) Boot to Normal Mode.

Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...

.......Quote..........
The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from the
drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" button; and
click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows how to
deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard Display
Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.

[That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, bolt
'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard display
types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane, click
'Next'"... PCR]

This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic VGA
adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA because
it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is to get
rid of whatever was there before.

Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that matches
your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer to
see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the correct
video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have an
adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company that
made your video card.

Bill Starbuck (MVP)
.......End....of quote....

Also...
..........Quote................
To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either the
Everest or Aida32 utility, available here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html

There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of AIDA32....I
suggest Enterprise:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html

Everest Free Edition:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html

AIDA32 is also available here:
http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
.........EOQ....................


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
"dougburkeen3" <dougburkeen3.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| i go into display in windows 98 and try to change it but it wont change even
| after i reboot
| it always returns to 16 and wont stay on 256 colors
| and even while im on the internet it still looks like safe mode very hard
| to see
| if any one has ideas i would appreciate the help my email address is
| dougburkeen3.DeleteThis@aol.com
| thank all for the help it is truly appreciated
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

Really, you should need nothing
> higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource considerations.
>
> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to click
> the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.

respectfully disagree, but only through 3 years of experience with my
current set-up.
mine is set to "True Color" (32 bit) (no problems with speed/resourse.)
slider is set to 1024x768 (agreed) but Advanced button yields small fonts..
have had no probs and visibility is fine.

guess gist is, diff' strokes fer diff' folks

98
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

"98 rules" <win98 DeleteThis @dontbelate.org> wrote in message
news:Oa761oB$GHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|
| Really, you should need nothing
| > higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource considerations.
| >
| > If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to click
| > the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
|
| respectfully disagree, but only through 3 years of experience with my
| current set-up.
| mine is set to "True Color" (32 bit) (no problems with speed/resourse.)
| slider is set to 1024x768 (agreed) but Advanced button yields small fonts..
| have had no probs and visibility is fine.
|
| guess gist is, diff' strokes fer diff' folks
|
| 98

That's the 2nd complaint I've had about that line. I guess it must vary per
video adapter &/or monitor what happens when you go to small fonts at 1024x768.
Also, some adapter/monitor software may better handle the load of "True Color"
(32 bit). But I do know with a Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63) video adapter & my
Compaq supersized MV720 monitor (now dead), it was impossible to read the START
menus & Desktop at that setting! The font & icons were way too tiny!

Nevertheless, I'll see whether I can modify the language for that line a little
next time I post it, as you & the other one add up to two now. OK, thanks.
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

As I see it, you were quoting starbuck, who was initially a Win95 MVP IIRC.
His advice, even in more modern times, reflects his roots in the older
systems.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23S$l0ZG$GHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "98 rules" <win98 RemoveThis @dontbelate.org> wrote in message
> news:Oa761oB$GHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |
> | Really, you should need nothing
> | > higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource considerations.
> | >
> | > If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to click
> | > the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
> |
> | respectfully disagree, but only through 3 years of experience with my
> | current set-up.
> | mine is set to "True Color" (32 bit) (no problems with speed/resourse.)
> | slider is set to 1024x768 (agreed) but Advanced button yields small
> fonts..
> | have had no probs and visibility is fine.
> |
> | guess gist is, diff' strokes fer diff' folks
> |
> | 98
>
> That's the 2nd complaint I've had about that line. I guess it must vary
> per
> video adapter &/or monitor what happens when you go to small fonts at
> 1024x768.
> Also, some adapter/monitor software may better handle the load of "True
> Color"
> (32 bit). But I do know with a Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63) video adapter &
> my
> Compaq supersized MV720 monitor (now dead), it was impossible to read the
> START
> menus & Desktop at that setting! The font & icons were way too tiny!
>
> Nevertheless, I'll see whether I can modify the language for that line a
> little
> next time I post it, as you & the other one add up to two now. OK, thanks.
>
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

No, that part was all me. Starbuck squeezed nicely into quotes— & hasn't oozed
out of them yet! Here is a preview of my modification to it, but I'm open to
suggestion...

If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly click the
Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance you end up with
tiny, unreadable fonts!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:e5ix6dG$GHA.896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| As I see it, you were quoting starbuck, who was initially a Win95 MVP IIRC.
| His advice, even in more modern times, reflects his roots in the older
| systems.
|
| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23S$l0ZG$GHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > "98 rules" <win98.DeleteThis@dontbelate.org> wrote in message
| > news:Oa761oB$GHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > |
| > | Really, you should need nothing
| > | > higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource considerations.
| > | >
| > | > If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to click
| > | > the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
| > |
| > | respectfully disagree, but only through 3 years of experience with my
| > | current set-up.
| > | mine is set to "True Color" (32 bit) (no problems with speed/resourse.)
| > | slider is set to 1024x768 (agreed) but Advanced button yields small
| > fonts..
| > | have had no probs and visibility is fine.
| > |
| > | guess gist is, diff' strokes fer diff' folks
| > |
| > | 98
| >
| > That's the 2nd complaint I've had about that line. I guess it must vary
| > per
| > video adapter &/or monitor what happens when you go to small fonts at
| > 1024x768.
| > Also, some adapter/monitor software may better handle the load of "True
| > Color"
| > (32 bit). But I do know with a Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63) video adapter &
| > my
| > Compaq supersized MV720 monitor (now dead), it was impossible to read the
| > START
| > menus & Desktop at that setting! The font & icons were way too tiny!
| >
| > Nevertheless, I'll see whether I can modify the language for that line a
| > little
| > next time I post it, as you & the other one add up to two now. OK, thanks.
| >
|
|
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

Well, it required a reboot, but I tried that small font setting with
this new EN5400e 15" LCD monitor, same Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63) video
adapter. Things are readable, but small-- especially the icons in the
system tray are small. I guess I'll stick with that same modification,
but I guess the chances of true unreadability is slim...

"If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly click
the Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance you
end up with tiny, unreadable fonts!"

But, as far as "True Color (32 bit)", I'm fairly sure I read that bit
about resources in "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), & likely
I'll let that be. But let me go to THAT setting too a while before a
final, irrevocable decision is made-- damn, it says there may be
problems without another reboot, if I change to it. Therefore, I must
remember to try it later.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
"PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eBu57oG$GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| No, that part was all me. Starbuck squeezed nicely into quotes— &
hasn't oozed
| out of them yet! Here is a preview of my modification to it, but I'm
open to
| suggestion...
|
| If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly click
the
| Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance you
end up with
| tiny, unreadable fonts!
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
| "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews RemoveThis @mvps.org> wrote in message
| news:e5ix6dG$GHA.896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | As I see it, you were quoting starbuck, who was initially a Win95
MVP IIRC.
| | His advice, even in more modern times, reflects his roots in the
older
| | systems.
| |
| | --
| |
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| | http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:%23S$l0ZG$GHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | > "98 rules" <win98 RemoveThis @dontbelate.org> wrote in message
| | > news:Oa761oB$GHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | > |
| | > | Really, you should need nothing
| | > | > higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource
considerations.
| | > | >
| | > | > If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure
to click
| | > | > the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
| | > |
| | > | respectfully disagree, but only through 3 years of experience
with my
| | > | current set-up.
| | > | mine is set to "True Color" (32 bit) (no problems with
speed/resourse.)
| | > | slider is set to 1024x768 (agreed) but Advanced button yields
small
| | > fonts..
| | > | have had no probs and visibility is fine.
| | > |
| | > | guess gist is, diff' strokes fer diff' folks
| | > |
| | > | 98
| | >
| | > That's the 2nd complaint I've had about that line. I guess it must
vary
| | > per
| | > video adapter &/or monitor what happens when you go to small fonts
at
| | > 1024x768.
| | > Also, some adapter/monitor software may better handle the load of
"True
| | > Color"
| | > (32 bit). But I do know with a Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63) video
adapter &
| | > my
| | > Compaq supersized MV720 monitor (now dead), it was impossible to
read the
| | > START
| | > menus & Desktop at that setting! The font & icons were way too
tiny!
| | >
| | > Nevertheless, I'll see whether I can modify the language for that
line a
| | > little
| | > next time I post it, as you & the other one add up to two now. OK,
thanks.
| | >
| |
| |
|
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

You have to realize that these resource/speed issues have a widely varying
impact on the system depending on the hardware. To make such broad
statements without putting them into context with regard to motherboard/CPU
and video card specs is being just too broad.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OMTxR%23G$GHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Well, it required a reboot, but I tried that small font setting with
> this new EN5400e 15" LCD monitor, same Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63) video
> adapter. Things are readable, but small-- especially the icons in the
> system tray are small. I guess I'll stick with that same modification,
> but I guess the chances of true unreadability is slim...
>
> "If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly click
> the Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance you
> end up with tiny, unreadable fonts!"
>
> But, as far as "True Color (32 bit)", I'm fairly sure I read that bit
> about resources in "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), & likely
> I'll let that be. But let me go to THAT setting too a while before a
> final, irrevocable decision is made-- damn, it says there may be
> problems without another reboot, if I change to it. Therefore, I must
> remember to try it later.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
> "PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:eBu57oG$GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | No, that part was all me. Starbuck squeezed nicely into quotes— &
> hasn't oozed
> | out of them yet! Here is a preview of my modification to it, but I'm
> open to
> | suggestion...
> |
> | If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly click
> the
> | Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance you
> end up with
> | tiny, unreadable fonts!
> |
> |
> | --
> | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | should things get worse after this,
> | PCR
> | pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
> | "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
> | news:e5ix6dG$GHA.896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | | As I see it, you were quoting starbuck, who was initially a Win95
> MVP IIRC.
> | | His advice, even in more modern times, reflects his roots in the
> older
> | | systems.
> | |
> | | --
> | |
> | | Gary S. Terhune
> | | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | | http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> | | http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> | |
> | | "PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | | news:%23S$l0ZG$GHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | | > "98 rules" <win98.DeleteThis@dontbelate.org> wrote in message
> | | > news:Oa761oB$GHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | | > |
> | | > | Really, you should need nothing
> | | > | > higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource
> considerations.
> | | > | >
> | | > | > If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure
> to click
> | | > | > the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
> | | > |
> | | > | respectfully disagree, but only through 3 years of experience
> with my
> | | > | current set-up.
> | | > | mine is set to "True Color" (32 bit) (no problems with
> speed/resourse.)
> | | > | slider is set to 1024x768 (agreed) but Advanced button yields
> small
> | | > fonts..
> | | > | have had no probs and visibility is fine.
> | | > |
> | | > | guess gist is, diff' strokes fer diff' folks
> | | > |
> | | > | 98
> | | >
> | | > That's the 2nd complaint I've had about that line. I guess it must
> vary
> | | > per
> | | > video adapter &/or monitor what happens when you go to small fonts
> at
> | | > 1024x768.
> | | > Also, some adapter/monitor software may better handle the load of
> "True
> | | > Color"
> | | > (32 bit). But I do know with a Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63) video
> adapter &
> | | > my
> | | > Compaq supersized MV720 monitor (now dead), it was impossible to
> read the
> | | > START
> | | > menus & Desktop at that setting! The font & icons were way too
> tiny!
> | | >
> | | > Nevertheless, I'll see whether I can modify the language for that
> line a
> | | > little
> | | > next time I post it, as you & the other one add up to two now. OK,
> thanks.
> | | >
> | |
> | |
> |
>
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

"Control Panel, Display, Settings tab, Advanced button"

Hmmm... Resource Meter won't budge from User-82% GDI-93% at boot, no
matter whether I am at "High Color (16 bit) or "True Color (32 bit)".
Likewise, there was no difference in resources at small or large fonts,
right after reboot anyhow.

While that result isn't quite definitive enough for me to outright call
Livingston or Straub an outright liar, I hereby quietly do drop the
following line from that master post of mine...

"Really, you should need nothing higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for
speed/resource considerations."

BUT, let it be on 98 rules head, IF anyone actually does get slower or
run out of resources over this-- or can't see his screen! Personally, I
have gone back to the way I had it-- 1024x768 resolution, 16-bit color &
LARGE fonts!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net
"PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OMTxR%23G$GHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Well, it required a reboot, but I tried that small font setting with
| this new EN5400e 15" LCD monitor, same Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63)
video
| adapter. Things are readable, but small-- especially the icons in the
| system tray are small. I guess I'll stick with that same modification,
| but I guess the chances of true unreadability is slim...
|
| "If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly click
| the Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance
you
| end up with tiny, unreadable fonts!"
|
| But, as far as "True Color (32 bit)", I'm fairly sure I read that bit
| about resources in "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), & likely
| I'll let that be. But let me go to THAT setting too a while before a
| final, irrevocable decision is made-- damn, it says there may be
| problems without another reboot, if I change to it. Therefore, I must
| remember to try it later.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net
| "PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eBu57oG$GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| | No, that part was all me. Starbuck squeezed nicely into quotes— &
| hasn't oozed
| | out of them yet! Here is a preview of my modification to it, but I'm
| open to
| | suggestion...
| |
| | If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly click
| the
| | Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance you
| end up with
| | tiny, unreadable fonts!
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| | pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net
| | "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews DeleteThis @mvps.org> wrote in message
| | news:e5ix6dG$GHA.896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | | As I see it, you were quoting starbuck, who was initially a Win95
| MVP IIRC.
| | | His advice, even in more modern times, reflects his roots in the
| older
| | | systems.
| | |
| | | --
| | |
| | | Gary S. Terhune
| | | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | | http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| | | http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
| | |
| | | "PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
| | | news:%23S$l0ZG$GHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | | > "98 rules" <win98 DeleteThis @dontbelate.org> wrote in message
| | | > news:Oa761oB$GHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | | > |
| | | > | Really, you should need nothing
| | | > | > higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource
| considerations.
| | | > | >
| | | > | > If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be
sure
| to click
| | | > | > the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
| | | > |
| | | > | respectfully disagree, but only through 3 years of experience
| with my
| | | > | current set-up.
| | | > | mine is set to "True Color" (32 bit) (no problems with
| speed/resourse.)
| | | > | slider is set to 1024x768 (agreed) but Advanced button yields
| small
| | | > fonts..
| | | > | have had no probs and visibility is fine.
| | | > |
| | | > | guess gist is, diff' strokes fer diff' folks
| | | > |
| | | > | 98
| | | >
| | | > That's the 2nd complaint I've had about that line. I guess it
must
| vary
| | | > per
| | | > video adapter &/or monitor what happens when you go to small
fonts
| at
| | | > 1024x768.
| | | > Also, some adapter/monitor software may better handle the load
of
| "True
| | | > Color"
| | | > (32 bit). But I do know with a Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63) video
| adapter &
| | | > my
| | | > Compaq supersized MV720 monitor (now dead), it was impossible to
| read the
| | | > START
| | | > menus & Desktop at that setting! The font & icons were way too
| tiny!
| | | >
| | | > Nevertheless, I'll see whether I can modify the language for
that
| line a
| | | > little
| | | > next time I post it, as you & the other one add up to two now.
OK,
| thanks.
| | | >
| | |
| | |
| |
|
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

Yea, I'm sure that is the bottom line. But I'm dropping the bit about
resources, for reasons in another post I've made here before seeing this
one of yours-- & it still hasn't arrived! But I'm pretty well done with
it!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:O9xhhQH$GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| You have to realize that these resource/speed issues have a widely
varying
| impact on the system depending on the hardware. To make such broad
| statements without putting them into context with regard to
motherboard/CPU
| and video card specs is being just too broad.
|
| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:OMTxR%23G$GHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Well, it required a reboot, but I tried that small font setting with
| > this new EN5400e 15" LCD monitor, same Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63)
video
| > adapter. Things are readable, but small-- especially the icons in
the
| > system tray are small. I guess I'll stick with that same
modification,
| > but I guess the chances of true unreadability is slim...
| >
| > "If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly
click
| > the Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance
you
| > end up with tiny, unreadable fonts!"
| >
| > But, as far as "True Color (32 bit)", I'm fairly sure I read that
bit
| > about resources in "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), &
likely
| > I'll let that be. But let me go to THAT setting too a while before a
| > final, irrevocable decision is made-- damn, it says there may be
| > problems without another reboot, if I change to it. Therefore, I
must
| > remember to try it later.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
| > "PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > news:eBu57oG$GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | No, that part was all me. Starbuck squeezed nicely into quotes— &
| > hasn't oozed
| > | out of them yet! Here is a preview of my modification to it, but
I'm
| > open to
| > | suggestion...
| > |
| > | If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly
click
| > the
| > | Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or there is a chance
you
| > end up with
| > | tiny, unreadable fonts!
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | should things get worse after this,
| > | PCR
| > | pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
| > | "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > | news:e5ix6dG$GHA.896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | | As I see it, you were quoting starbuck, who was initially a
Win95
| > MVP IIRC.
| > | | His advice, even in more modern times, reflects his roots in the
| > older
| > | | systems.
| > | |
| > | | --
| > | |
| > | | Gary S. Terhune
| > | | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | | http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| > | | http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
| > | |
| > | | "PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | | news:%23S$l0ZG$GHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | | > "98 rules" <win98.DeleteThis@dontbelate.org> wrote in message
| > | | > news:Oa761oB$GHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | | > |
| > | | > | Really, you should need nothing
| > | | > | > higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource
| > considerations.
| > | | > | >
| > | | > | > If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be
sure
| > to click
| > | | > | > the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
| > | | > |
| > | | > | respectfully disagree, but only through 3 years of
experience
| > with my
| > | | > | current set-up.
| > | | > | mine is set to "True Color" (32 bit) (no problems with
| > speed/resourse.)
| > | | > | slider is set to 1024x768 (agreed) but Advanced button
yields
| > small
| > | | > fonts..
| > | | > | have had no probs and visibility is fine.
| > | | > |
| > | | > | guess gist is, diff' strokes fer diff' folks
| > | | > |
| > | | > | 98
| > | | >
| > | | > That's the 2nd complaint I've had about that line. I guess it
must
| > vary
| > | | > per
| > | | > video adapter &/or monitor what happens when you go to small
fonts
| > at
| > | | > 1024x768.
| > | | > Also, some adapter/monitor software may better handle the load
of
| > "True
| > | | > Color"
| > | | > (32 bit). But I do know with a Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63)
video
| > adapter &
| > | | > my
| > | | > Compaq supersized MV720 monitor (now dead), it was impossible
to
| > read the
| > | | > START
| > | | > menus & Desktop at that setting! The font & icons were way too
| > tiny!
| > | | >
| > | | > Nevertheless, I'll see whether I can modify the language for
that
| > line a
| > | | > little
| > | | > next time I post it, as you & the other one add up to two now.
OK,
| > thanks.
| > | | >
| > | |
| > | |
| > |
| >
|
|
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

> BUT, let it be on 98 rules head, IF anyone actually does get slower or
> run out of resources over this-- or can't see his screen! Personally, I
> have gone back to the way I had it-- 1024x768 resolution, 16-bit color &
> LARGE fonts!
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,

Good research, a boon to you pcr.
I only called it the way it has been for me, and I have no problems.
The arguement between 16bit ands 32bit can be said to just be an
arguement, but when it comes to 'results', only a user can decide regarding
their own hardware and preferences. (I wear glasses, but Small Icons and
small print are much more preferable.)
Clarity seems to 'me' to be much better at 32 bit.
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

"98 rules" <win98 RemoveThis @dontbelate.org> wrote in message
news:OqVDvSn$GHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > BUT, let it be on 98 rules head, IF anyone actually does get slower
or
| > run out of resources over this-- or can't see his screen!
Personally, I
| > have gone back to the way I had it-- 1024x768 resolution, 16-bit
color &
| > LARGE fonts!
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
|
| Good research, a boon to you pcr.
| I only called it the way it has been for me, and I have no problems.
| The arguement between 16bit ands 32bit can be said to just be an
| arguement, but when it comes to 'results', only a user can decide
regarding
| their own hardware and preferences. (I wear glasses, but Small Icons
and
| small print are much more preferable.)
| Clarity seems to 'me' to be much better at 32 bit.

OK, thanks. Mileage varies per hardware/drivers with those settings, as
I think we already knew. I've had no minute font/unreadability problem
this time around even with a 2" smaller monitor & saw no quick drain on
resources/speed. Maybe I'll go back to 32-bit True Color & run it a
while, though— not just read the Resource Monitor at boot.

Nevertheless, I do believe these adjustments very probably were
warranted in that master post of mine— & I will lift my curse off your
head in 3 months of no mishaps! OK, bye.
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

"98 rules" <win98 DeleteThis @dontbelate.org> wrote in message
news:OqVDvSn$GHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > BUT, let it be on 98 rules head, IF anyone actually does get slower
or
| > run out of resources over this-- or can't see his screen!
Personally, I
| > have gone back to the way I had it-- 1024x768 resolution, 16-bit
color &
| > LARGE fonts!
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
|
| Good research, a boon to you pcr.
| I only called it the way it has been for me, and I have no problems.
| The arguement between 16bit ands 32bit can be said to just be an
| arguement, but when it comes to 'results', only a user can decide
regarding
| their own hardware and preferences. (I wear glasses, but Small Icons
and
| small print are much more preferable.)
| Clarity seems to 'me' to be much better at 32 bit.

OK, thanks. Mileage varies per hardware/drivers with those settings, as
I think we already knew. I've had no minute font/unreadability problem
this time around even with a 2" smaller monitor & saw no quick drain on
resources/speed. Maybe I'll go back to 32-bit True Color & run it a
while, though— not just read the Resource Monitor at boot.

Nevertheless, I do believe these adjustments very probably were
warranted in that master post of mine— & I will lift my curse off your
head in 3 months of no mishaps! OK, bye.
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode 

"98 rules" <win98.TakeThisOut@dontbelate.org> wrote in message
news:OqVDvSn$GHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > BUT, let it be on 98 rules head, IF anyone actually does get slower
or
| > run out of resources over this-- or can't see his screen!
Personally, I
| > have gone back to the way I had it-- 1024x768 resolution, 16-bit
color &
| > LARGE fonts!
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
|
| Good research, a boon to you pcr.
| I only called it the way it has been for me, and I have no problems.
| The arguement between 16bit ands 32bit can be said to just be an
| arguement, but when it comes to 'results', only a user can decide
regarding
| their own hardware and preferences. (I wear glasses, but Small Icons
and
| small print are much more preferable.)
| Clarity seems to 'me' to be much better at 32 bit.

OK, thanks. Mileage varies per hardware/drivers with those settings, as
I think we already knew. I've had no minute font/unreadability problem
this time around even with a 2" smaller monitor & saw no quick drain on
resources/speed. Maybe I'll go back to 32-bit True Color & run it a
while, though— not just read the Resource Monitor at boot.

Nevertheless, I do believe these adjustments very probably were
warranted in that master post of mine— & I will lift my curse off your
head in 3 months of no mishaps! OK, bye.
 >> Stay informed about: im having trouble with my color screen looks like safe mode