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Since: May 24, 2006 Posts: 210
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:42 pm
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"Gekko" <Gekko DeleteThis @hughisindiangiver.org> wrote in
news:u78q$dn$GHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
> no matter what 'all' the 'micro' people in this group tell
> you.... they will 'refuse' to tell you to get WIN-ME's
> defragment program.... ME's defrag program is at least 20
> times faster and more efficient than win 98's..........
> its a KNOWN fact. (unfortunately, the VIP's in this group
> are 'gagged' by microsoft to tell
> you this...... and their loyalties and morals and
> ethics are strictly orientated to microsoft rather than
> compassion or logic. )
> Follow the rest of the recommendations from people in this
> thread, then proceed to ASK anyone of them where YOU can
> obtain winME's version of Defrag.....!
> You will find that due to the fact that some of their
> colleagues have branched off from 'micro' at their sites,
> they actually 'offer' the defrag program for FREE.
> The people who do this are generally fed up with micro's
> 'Attitude' to the common man.
> Go for it friend, you will notice your computer defragged
> within minutes.
>
>
I appreciate your venom directed at certain parties (even though
even by my standards it is slightly exaggerated), but the ME
defragger is NOT 20 times faster, that is like claiming IE is
the safest browser there is. I have it on my 95B and 98SE Lite
machines and the only difference I have noticed is that it
doesn't tell me (in MS's "so helpful" manner) what percentage of
my disk is defragged and whether it "needs" to be defragged, it
just goes to work. It might well work better - it APPEARS to be
an Intel product - but it is NOT noticeable.
If anyone wants it, there are dozens of places you can get it in
a zip file along with the better scandisk. I can't provide a
link because I've had it forever and can't remember where I got
it. Google.
OP: The DOS command is:
scandisk C:
I don't know where you got the <C> from.
[BTW: MVP's: How come you can't defrag in DOS?]
AFA defragging hanging or restarting, NOTHING can be happening
on the drive while you are defragging it, or the process will
restart. That includes screen savers, looking at an old email or
WHATEVER. That's what partitions are for. NOTHING except the OS
and programs should be on the C: drive.
However, since there seems to be a rather successful conspiracy
between brand-name computer manufacturers and Microsoft to
eliminate the word "partition" from the computer realm, I will
only say that I have 6 or 7 partitions on my 95B machine and 16
or so on my 98SE Lite machine and I USUALLY defrag C: (or any
other partition for that matter) in less than 3 minutes, often
in less than one.
I have a friend who likes to defrag his (one partition) machine
every day (!) and watch it struggle for 2 hours or more. It
gives him the satisfaction of having a "well-maintained"
computer. Need I say more?
Regards
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Since: May 24, 2006 Posts: 210
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:42 pm
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"Gekko" <Gekko RemoveThis @hughisindiangiver.org> wrote in
news:u78q$dn$GHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
> no matter what 'all' the 'micro' people in this group tell
> you.... they will 'refuse' to tell you to get WIN-ME's
> defragment program.... ME's defrag program is at least 20
> times faster and more efficient than win 98's..........
> its a KNOWN fact. (unfortunately, the VIP's in this group
> are 'gagged' by microsoft to tell
> you this...... and their loyalties and morals and
> ethics are strictly orientated to microsoft rather than
> compassion or logic. )
> Follow the rest of the recommendations from people in this
> thread, then proceed to ASK anyone of them where YOU can
> obtain winME's version of Defrag.....!
> You will find that due to the fact that some of their
> colleagues have branched off from 'micro' at their sites,
> they actually 'offer' the defrag program for FREE.
> The people who do this are generally fed up with micro's
> 'Attitude' to the common man.
> Go for it friend, you will notice your computer defragged
> within minutes.
>
>
I appreciate your venom directed at certain parties (even though
even by my standards it is slightly exaggerated), but the ME
defragger is NOT 20 times faster, that is like claiming IE is
the safest browser there is. I have it on my 95B and 98SE Lite
machines and the only difference I have noticed is that it
doesn't tell me (in MS's "so helpful" manner) what percentage of
my disk is defragged and whether it "needs" to be defragged, it
just goes to work. It might well work better - it APPEARS to be
an Intel product - but it is NOT noticeable.
If anyone wants it, there are dozens of places you can get it in
a zip file along with the better scandisk. I can't provide a
link because I've had it forever and can't remember where I got
it. Google.
OP: The DOS command is:
scandisk C:
I don't know where you got the <C> from.
[BTW: MVP's: How come you can't defrag in DOS?]
AFA defragging hanging or restarting, NOTHING can be happening
on the drive while you are defragging it, or the process will
restart. That includes screen savers, looking at an old email or
WHATEVER. That's what partitions are for. NOTHING except the OS
and programs should be on the C: drive.
However, since there seems to be a rather successful conspiracy
between brand-name computer manufacturers and Microsoft to
eliminate the word "partition" from the computer realm, I will
only say that I have 6 or 7 partitions on my 95B machine and 16
or so on my 98SE Lite machine and I USUALLY defrag C: (or any
other partition for that matter) in less than 3 minutes, often
in less than one.
I have a friend who likes to defrag his (one partition) machine
every day (!) and watch it struggle for 2 hours or more. It
gives him the satisfaction of having a "well-maintained"
computer. Need I say more?
Regards
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Since: May 24, 2006 Posts: 210
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:42 pm
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"Gekko" <Gekko RemoveThis @hughisindiangiver.org> wrote in
news:u78q$dn$GHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
> no matter what 'all' the 'micro' people in this group tell
> you.... they will 'refuse' to tell you to get WIN-ME's
> defragment program.... ME's defrag program is at least 20
> times faster and more efficient than win 98's..........
> its a KNOWN fact. (unfortunately, the VIP's in this group
> are 'gagged' by microsoft to tell
> you this...... and their loyalties and morals and
> ethics are strictly orientated to microsoft rather than
> compassion or logic. )
> Follow the rest of the recommendations from people in this
> thread, then proceed to ASK anyone of them where YOU can
> obtain winME's version of Defrag.....!
> You will find that due to the fact that some of their
> colleagues have branched off from 'micro' at their sites,
> they actually 'offer' the defrag program for FREE.
> The people who do this are generally fed up with micro's
> 'Attitude' to the common man.
> Go for it friend, you will notice your computer defragged
> within minutes.
>
>
I appreciate your venom directed at certain parties (even though
even by my standards it is slightly exaggerated), but the ME
defragger is NOT 20 times faster, that is like claiming IE is
the safest browser there is. I have it on my 95B and 98SE Lite
machines and the only difference I have noticed is that it
doesn't tell me (in MS's "so helpful" manner) what percentage of
my disk is defragged and whether it "needs" to be defragged, it
just goes to work. It might well work better - it APPEARS to be
an Intel product - but it is NOT noticeable.
If anyone wants it, there are dozens of places you can get it in
a zip file along with the better scandisk. I can't provide a
link because I've had it forever and can't remember where I got
it. Google.
OP: The DOS command is:
scandisk C:
I don't know where you got the <C> from.
[BTW: MVP's: How come you can't defrag in DOS?]
AFA defragging hanging or restarting, NOTHING can be happening
on the drive while you are defragging it, or the process will
restart. That includes screen savers, looking at an old email or
WHATEVER. That's what partitions are for. NOTHING except the OS
and programs should be on the C: drive.
However, since there seems to be a rather successful conspiracy
between brand-name computer manufacturers and Microsoft to
eliminate the word "partition" from the computer realm, I will
only say that I have 6 or 7 partitions on my 95B machine and 16
or so on my 98SE Lite machine and I USUALLY defrag C: (or any
other partition for that matter) in less than 3 minutes, often
in less than one.
I have a friend who likes to defrag his (one partition) machine
every day (!) and watch it struggle for 2 hours or more. It
gives him the satisfaction of having a "well-maintained"
computer. Need I say more?
Regards
t. >> Stay informed about: defrag won't work |
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Since: May 24, 2006 Posts: 210
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:42 pm
Post subject: Re: defrag won't work [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Gekko" <Gekko.RemoveThis@hughisindiangiver.org> wrote in
news:u78q$dn$GHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
> no matter what 'all' the 'micro' people in this group tell
> you.... they will 'refuse' to tell you to get WIN-ME's
> defragment program.... ME's defrag program is at least 20
> times faster and more efficient than win 98's..........
> its a KNOWN fact. (unfortunately, the VIP's in this group
> are 'gagged' by microsoft to tell
> you this...... and their loyalties and morals and
> ethics are strictly orientated to microsoft rather than
> compassion or logic. )
> Follow the rest of the recommendations from people in this
> thread, then proceed to ASK anyone of them where YOU can
> obtain winME's version of Defrag.....!
> You will find that due to the fact that some of their
> colleagues have branched off from 'micro' at their sites,
> they actually 'offer' the defrag program for FREE.
> The people who do this are generally fed up with micro's
> 'Attitude' to the common man.
> Go for it friend, you will notice your computer defragged
> within minutes.
>
>
I appreciate your venom directed at certain parties (even though
even by my standards it is slightly exaggerated), but the ME
defragger is NOT 20 times faster, that is like claiming IE is
the safest browser there is. I have it on my 95B and 98SE Lite
machines and the only difference I have noticed is that it
doesn't tell me (in MS's "so helpful" manner) what percentage of
my disk is defragged and whether it "needs" to be defragged, it
just goes to work. It might well work better - it APPEARS to be
an Intel product - but it is NOT noticeable.
If anyone wants it, there are dozens of places you can get it in
a zip file along with the better scandisk. I can't provide a
link because I've had it forever and can't remember where I got
it. Google.
OP: The DOS command is:
scandisk C:
I don't know where you got the <C> from.
[BTW: MVP's: How come you can't defrag in DOS?]
AFA defragging hanging or restarting, NOTHING can be happening
on the drive while you are defragging it, or the process will
restart. That includes screen savers, looking at an old email or
WHATEVER. That's what partitions are for. NOTHING except the OS
and programs should be on the C: drive.
However, since there seems to be a rather successful conspiracy
between brand-name computer manufacturers and Microsoft to
eliminate the word "partition" from the computer realm, I will
only say that I have 6 or 7 partitions on my 95B machine and 16
or so on my 98SE Lite machine and I USUALLY defrag C: (or any
other partition for that matter) in less than 3 minutes, often
in less than one.
I have a friend who likes to defrag his (one partition) machine
every day (!) and watch it struggle for 2 hours or more. It
gives him the satisfaction of having a "well-maintained"
computer. Need I say more?
Regards
t. >> Stay informed about: defrag won't work |
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Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 2768
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:48 pm
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You can't run DEFRAG in DOS mode. Requires Windows.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"michael adams" <mjadams27.DeleteThis@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Mxa2h.55$FD2.28@newsfe11.lga...
>> I have windows 98se Dell desktop xps t450 with 387 ram. Computer
>> Associates Internet Security Suite (which I finally got installed
>> correctly? yesterday) . Now I can not defragment my C drive even
>> if I disable all of my VS, firewall, anti-spyware. and do
>> a ctrl-alt-delete of everything except explorer and systray (by
>> the way ...the sound setting megaphone has disappeared from my
>> systray) Please Help.I have cable connection. Defrag just spins
>> its wheels. sometimes it goes to 1% but then drops back
>> to 0% again.
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> Try it in DOS. Reboot, press f8, choose option 5 Command Mode only,
> and then type DEFRAG. Norton's Speed Disk, the Windows version of
> SPEEDISK, included in System Works works much faster than DEFRAG
> as it moves disc clusters in groups.
>
> michael adams
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> ...
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Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 2768
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:52 pm
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I suggest you pay attention to Ron Badour's suggestions and also read the
first link in my signature.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5 RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I have windows 98se Dell desktop xps t450 with 387 ram. Computer Associates
>Internet
> Security Suite (which I finally got installed correctly? yesterday) . Now
> I can not
> defragment my C drive even if I disable all of my VS, firewall,
> anti-spyware. and do
> a ctrl-alt-delete of everything except explorer and systray (by the way
> ...the sound
> setting megaphone has disappeared from my systray) Please Help.I have
> cable
> connection. Defrag just spins its wheels. sometimes it goes to 1% but then
> drops back
> to 0% again.
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Since: Jan 06, 2005 Posts: 75
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure DeleteThis @dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5 DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure DeleteThis @dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5 DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure DeleteThis @dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5 DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:LId2h.63$VP3.48@newsfe09.lga...
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> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
>
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure.DeleteThis@dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:LId2h.63$VP3.48@newsfe09.lga...
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> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
>
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure.DeleteThis@dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:LId2h.63$VP3.48@newsfe09.lga...
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> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
>
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure.DeleteThis@dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:LId2h.63$VP3.48@newsfe09.lga...
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> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
>
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure DeleteThis @dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5 DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:LId2h.63$VP3.48@newsfe09.lga...
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> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
>
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure.TakeThisOut@dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:LId2h.63$VP3.48@newsfe09.lga...
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> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
>
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:35 pm
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I DID NOT SAY scandisC - I said scandisc <C> - C being the drive I want scandisc to
scan.
"Hugh Candlin" <sure.DeleteThis@dream.on> wrote in message
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> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:LId2h.63$VP3.48@newsfe09.lga...
>
> > I booted up in dos and tried to type in
> > scandisc<C>: and it said that was an incorrect command, I tried it with
> all kinds of
> > spaces and capital s , etc. I am getting nowhere
>
> scandisK
>
> not
>
> scandisC
>
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