Cannot boot up

Your PC is hung at the bios routine. Has nothing to do with windows or NAV.
What comes after the memory testing is checking onboard ide devices like
hard drives and cdroms/DVD devices. Which, apparently, never happens.
If you've never opened up a PC case, take to somone who is familiar with
that. Reconnect the two cables on the hard drive(s), and CD and/or DVD
devices. Also reconnect those same wider cables at the motherboard.
If this doesn't do the trick, pull the cmos battery (round silvery coin
shaped) then reinsert. This will reset the configuration data
automatically. In all cases, remove the PC's power cable from the AC outlet
before proceeding.

Did any of the young ones attempt to update the bios?

"tim" <tim.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EE6D87AD-F5D9-49E6-BD38-233CC39D5634@microsoft.com...
> I will repost with more details . My w98se cannot boot up. It will freeze
> after "Memory testing: 131072k ok"
> and the cursor is no where to be seen.
>
> At the bottom of the screen, there are 3 commands
> Press F8-to enable System Configuration
> Press F9- to select Boot Device after POST
> Press DEL to enter SETUP
> and none of these commandsget me anywhere.
>
> The best I can go is when I press DEL upon start up, its says 'Emtering
> SETUP and just freeze there. Please advice what can I do next? Thanks
>
>
>
> What can I do next? Can I use another
> pc win 98 boot floppy? (pc used by young ones playing internet games,
NAV2005
> updated regularly). Many thanks for uour assistance
 >> Stay informed about: Cannot boot up 

Open the case and remove and reseat the memory modules.
If possible, replace them with known good ones or find some
way of testing the existing ones.

Ben

"tim" <tim DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EE6D87AD-F5D9-49E6-BD38-233CC39D5634@microsoft.com...
> I will repost with more details . My w98se cannot boot up. It will freeze
> after "Memory testing: 131072k ok"
> and the cursor is no where to be seen.
>
> At the bottom of the screen, there are 3 commands
> Press F8-to enable System Configuration
> Press F9- to select Boot Device after POST
> Press DEL to enter SETUP
> and none of these commandsget me anywhere.
>
> The best I can go is when I press DEL upon start up, its says 'Emtering
> SETUP and just freeze there. Please advice what can I do next? Thanks
>
>
>
> What can I do next? Can I use another
> pc win 98 boot floppy? (pc used by young ones playing internet games, NAV2005
> updated regularly). Many thanks for uour assistance
 >> Stay informed about: Cannot boot up 

Many thanks for all the suggestions and the one that does the trick is the
memory modules. I can boot up to desktop. Deleted all the TIF and do a
Window Scan Disk. It does not seems to 'work'. Normally, I set it to
automatic Fix and you will expect Scan Disk to check folders, folders and
files, allocation tables and give you a running figure. Now, it never seems
to give me that number abd looks like it stuck in a loop. However, I can do
defrag and complete it.
How can I rectify the problem?



"Ben Myers" wrote:

> Open the case and remove and reseat the memory modules.
> If possible, replace them with known good ones or find some
> way of testing the existing ones.
>
> Ben
>
> "tim" <tim.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EE6D87AD-F5D9-49E6-BD38-233CC39D5634@microsoft.com...
> > I will repost with more details . My w98se cannot boot up. It will freeze
> > after "Memory testing: 131072k ok"
> > and the cursor is no where to be seen.
> >
> > At the bottom of the screen, there are 3 commands
> > Press F8-to enable System Configuration
> > Press F9- to select Boot Device after POST
> > Press DEL to enter SETUP
> > and none of these commandsget me anywhere.
> >
> > The best I can go is when I press DEL upon start up, its says 'Emtering
> > SETUP and just freeze there. Please advice what can I do next? Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > What can I do next? Can I use another
> > pc win 98 boot floppy? (pc used by young ones playing internet games, NAV2005
> > updated regularly). Many thanks for uour assistance
>
 >> Stay informed about: Cannot boot up 

1. You should *not* set Scandisk to automatically fix anything. There are
certain types of problems that Scandisk will only make worse. Much worse.
For this reason, you should also locate SCANDISK.INI and make the
appropriate changes so that any autorun of Scandisk at startup also does not
automatically fix anything. The INI file is fully documented, so it should
be no problem for you to figure out what to change.

2. If Scandisk in Windows seems to be behaving oddly, especially if it
fails, aborts prematurely or runs forever without progressing, you should
restart in Command Prompt Only mode and runs Scandisk there, with a full
surface scan. Again, DO NOT autofix anything. Report back here with the
results.

In general, the only two scandisk fixes I habitually OK when reported are
Date/Time inconsistencies and Free Space reporting errors. If I'm aware that
there was a "dirty" shutdown or other program failures, things that can
cause files to be "broken", then I will OK the "repair" of lost clusters and
cross-linked files, but I don't do this on the first round. I make sure to
mentally take careful stock of any other recent systems, first. If the hard
drive is going bad, or there's a low-level virus, or some other serious
problem, it can look like file-table corruption when it's really not. If you
let Scandisk fix files and file tables in these situations, it will be based
upon faulty data. I liken the effect to the flu, where it is the human
auto-immune system's over-reacting that causes the worst symptoms, and even
death, not the virus itself. If you want more details on this, ask Chris
Quirke. He'll be describe the death throes of a system eaten by its own
immune system with an enthusiasm that would make Jack Klugman blush.

Have you read my article on Windows 98 maintenance?
"Clean Boot -- What is and why you need it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"tim" <tim.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:56E94383-D203-42F9-BB2E-EF7A883C2244@microsoft.com...
> Many thanks for all the suggestions and the one that does the trick is the
> memory modules. I can boot up to desktop. Deleted all the TIF and do a
> Window Scan Disk. It does not seems to 'work'. Normally, I set it to
> automatic Fix and you will expect Scan Disk to check folders, folders and
> files, allocation tables and give you a running figure. Now, it never
seems
> to give me that number abd looks like it stuck in a loop. However, I can
do
> defrag and complete it.
> How can I rectify the problem?
>
>
>
> "Ben Myers" wrote:
>
> > Open the case and remove and reseat the memory modules.
> > If possible, replace them with known good ones or find some
> > way of testing the existing ones.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > "tim" <tim.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EE6D87AD-F5D9-49E6-BD38-233CC39D5634@microsoft.com...
> > > I will repost with more details . My w98se cannot boot up. It will
freeze
> > > after "Memory testing: 131072k ok"
> > > and the cursor is no where to be seen.
> > >
> > > At the bottom of the screen, there are 3 commands
> > > Press F8-to enable System Configuration
> > > Press F9- to select Boot Device after POST
> > > Press DEL to enter SETUP
> > > and none of these commandsget me anywhere.
> > >
> > > The best I can go is when I press DEL upon start up, its says
'Emtering
> > > SETUP and just freeze there. Please advice what can I do next? Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What can I do next? Can I use another
> > > pc win 98 boot floppy? (pc used by young ones playing internet games,
NAV2005
> > > updated regularly). Many thanks for uour assistance
> >
 >> Stay informed about: Cannot boot up 

Try running ScanDisk in Safe mode(tap the F8 key repeatedly during bootup).

Ben

"tim" <tim DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:56E94383-D203-42F9-BB2E-EF7A883C2244@microsoft.com...
> Many thanks for all the suggestions and the one that does the trick is the
> memory modules. I can boot up to desktop. Deleted all the TIF and do a
> Window Scan Disk. It does not seems to 'work'. Normally, I set it to
> automatic Fix and you will expect Scan Disk to check folders, folders and
> files, allocation tables and give you a running figure. Now, it never seems
> to give me that number abd looks like it stuck in a loop. However, I can do
> defrag and complete it.
> How can I rectify the problem?
>
>
>
> "Ben Myers" wrote:
>
> > Open the case and remove and reseat the memory modules.
> > If possible, replace them with known good ones or find some
> > way of testing the existing ones.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > "tim" <tim DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EE6D87AD-F5D9-49E6-BD38-233CC39D5634@microsoft.com...
> > > I will repost with more details . My w98se cannot boot up. It will freeze
> > > after "Memory testing: 131072k ok"
> > > and the cursor is no where to be seen.
> > >
> > > At the bottom of the screen, there are 3 commands
> > > Press F8-to enable System Configuration
> > > Press F9- to select Boot Device after POST
> > > Press DEL to enter SETUP
> > > and none of these commandsget me anywhere.
> > >
> > > The best I can go is when I press DEL upon start up, its says 'Emtering
> > > SETUP and just freeze there. Please advice what can I do next? Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What can I do next? Can I use another
> > > pc win 98 boot floppy? (pc used by young ones playing internet games, NAV2005
> > > updated regularly). Many thanks for uour assistance
> >
 >> Stay informed about: Cannot boot up 

I reformatted my hard drive in windows 98. However, now I can't boot with my
floppy boot disk. I get a messages searching for boot record from IDE-0..OK
and invalid sys disk, replace the disk and hit any key. How can I change my
IDE-0 to IDE-1 so it will accept my boot disk in drive A. I am unable to type
anything, when I hit any key the above message appears and that is as far as
I can go.
--
Help! Bob M


"tim" wrote:

> I will repost with more details . My w98se cannot boot up. It will freeze
> after "Memory testing: 131072k ok"
> and the cursor is no where to be seen.
>
> At the bottom of the screen, there are 3 commands
> Press F8-to enable System Configuration
> Press F9- to select Boot Device after POST
> Press DEL to enter SETUP
> and none of these commandsget me anywhere.
>
> The best I can go is when I press DEL upon start up, its says 'Emtering
> SETUP and just freeze there. Please advice what can I do next? Thanks
>
>
>
> What can I do next? Can I use another
> pc win 98 boot floppy? (pc used by young ones playing internet games, NAV2005
> updated regularly). Many thanks for uour assistance
 >> Stay informed about: Cannot boot up 

Your floppy drive is not on an IDE channel. The message you get is because the
computer is trying to boot from the hard drive on the primary IDE channel, IDE-0.
IDE-1 would be the secondary IDE channel, which is probably where your CD drive is
connected.

To boot from the floppy drive, you need to enter the BIOS setup program when the
computer is first turned on, and change the Boot Order or Boot Sequence so that it
checks to boot from the floppy drive first, then the hard drive.

To enter the BIOS setup program you have to press a key or key combination when
prompted on your screen as the computer is first turned on. It may show a message
at the top or bottom of the screen which says something like "Press F1 to enter
Setup..." or "Press Delete to enter setup" or something along those lines.

Once you have entered BIOS setup and changed the boot order (don't mess with
anything else), you Exit Saving Changes and start with the boot floppy.

If you have never entered the BIOS setup you may want to get the help of someone who
has.

How to enter the BIOS or CMOS setup.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000192.htm

How to access/enter Motherboard BIOS
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm

BIOS - the setup program used in personal computers - Page 1 of 2
http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/BIOS.htm

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"Bob M" <bobm.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:200EFDA5-F129-4F90-87FF-45A0AA3F4A3F@microsoft.com...
>I reformatted my hard drive in windows 98. However, now I can't boot with my
> floppy boot disk. I get a messages searching for boot record from IDE-0..OK
> and invalid sys disk, replace the disk and hit any key. How can I change my
> IDE-0 to IDE-1 so it will accept my boot disk in drive A. I am unable to type
> anything, when I hit any key the above message appears and that is as far as
> I can go.
> --
> Help! Bob M
>
>
> "tim" wrote:
>
>> I will repost with more details . My w98se cannot boot up. It will freeze
>> after "Memory testing: 131072k ok"
>> and the cursor is no where to be seen.
>>
>> At the bottom of the screen, there are 3 commands
>> Press F8-to enable System Configuration
>> Press F9- to select Boot Device after POST
>> Press DEL to enter SETUP
>> and none of these commandsget me anywhere.
>>
>> The best I can go is when I press DEL upon start up, its says 'Emtering
>> SETUP and just freeze there. Please advice what can I do next? Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> What can I do next? Can I use another
>> pc win 98 boot floppy? (pc used by young ones playing internet games, NAV2005
>> updated regularly). Many thanks for uour assistance
 >> Stay informed about: Cannot boot up