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Brian D. McGrew

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Since: Jan 14, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:43 am
Post subject: Synching to External Time Source
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Good morning,

I need to make my Windows 2000 Advanced Servers synchronize to an external
time source. I run many other operating systems including Linux, Unix, BSD
and MacOS and we all need to synchronize to the same clocks, so my questions
are:

1) How do I make my Windows AD Servers synchronize to a time source of my
specification?

2) I've been told that all Windows Clients (XP/2000Pro) use the time from
the server, is this correct or do I need to modify all my clients to
synchronize to this time source?

Thanks,

-brian
moc tod orpnoisiv ta naird
(to prevent spam, email address is typed in reverse order)

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frank119

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Synching to External Time Source [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> 1) How do I make my Windows AD Servers synchronize to a time source of my
> specification?

Go to a command line and type:

net time /setsntp:time.nist.gov <enter>

This will hold through reboots.

This should be done on only the "PDC Emulator" Domain Controller (usually
the FSMO too). The other Domain Controllers (if any) should not be set to
sync to an external time source. They will go to the PDC Emulator by default
as long as you do not set a specific time source for them. (see below for
removing any previously set source)

> 2) I've been told that all Windows Clients (XP/2000Pro) use the time from
> the server, is this correct

By default, yes. As long as the clients have not had thier own time sync
option specified.

> or do I need to modify all my clients to synchronize to this time source?

Remove any previously specified time sync option from the clients using the
following command on the client:

net time /setsntp: <enter>

After doing this, you can check your time sync option on any machine by
typing the following:

net time /querysntp <enter>

If set, you should see the time sync option (i.e. time.nist.gov).

If not set you should see the following message:

------------
U:\>net time /querysntp
This computer is not currently configured to use a specific SNTP server.

The command completed successfully.
-------------

The above message is normal and will cause the client to sync to the
appropriate domain controller automatically.

-Frank

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Tym Huckin

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Since: Oct 03, 2006
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Synching to External Time Source [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Use DS Clock to atomic clock syncyour server - like I do. All worksatinos
then use the net time command to sync with the server when they log on.

Tym

"Brian D. McGrew" <brian.TakeThisOut@visionpro.com> wrote in message
news:epF8gNx5GHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Good morning,
>
> I need to make my Windows 2000 Advanced Servers synchronize to an external
> time source. I run many other operating systems including Linux, Unix,
> BSD and MacOS and we all need to synchronize to the same clocks, so my
> questions are:
>
> 1) How do I make my Windows AD Servers synchronize to a time source of my
> specification?
>
> 2) I've been told that all Windows Clients (XP/2000Pro) use the time from
> the server, is this correct or do I need to modify all my clients to
> synchronize to this time source?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -brian
> moc tod orpnoisiv ta naird
> (to prevent spam, email address is typed in reverse order)
>
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Mohammad-Ali

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Since: Sep 26, 2006
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:55 am
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Hi Frankster Smile

As you said:

> This should be done on only the "PDC Emulator" Domain Controller (usually
> the FSMO too). The other Domain Controllers (if any) should not be set to
> sync to an external time source. They will go to the PDC Emulator by
default
> as long as you do not set a specific time source for them. (see below for
> removing any previously set source)

I didn't get you why we shouldn't set the timesynch on the PDC, I have a
Win2k Domain Controller, what would happen if I set the time synch on it?

Kind Regards,
Mohammad-Ali


"Frankster" <Frank.RemoveThis@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
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> > 1) How do I make my Windows AD Servers synchronize to a time source of
my
> > specification?
>
> Go to a command line and type:
>
> net time /setsntp:time.nist.gov <enter>
>
> This will hold through reboots.
>
> This should be done on only the "PDC Emulator" Domain Controller (usually
> the FSMO too). The other Domain Controllers (if any) should not be set to
> sync to an external time source. They will go to the PDC Emulator by
default
> as long as you do not set a specific time source for them. (see below for
> removing any previously set source)
>
> > 2) I've been told that all Windows Clients (XP/2000Pro) use the time
from
> > the server, is this correct
>
> By default, yes. As long as the clients have not had thier own time sync
> option specified.
>
> > or do I need to modify all my clients to synchronize to this time
source?
>
> Remove any previously specified time sync option from the clients using
the
> following command on the client:
>
> net time /setsntp: <enter>
>
> After doing this, you can check your time sync option on any machine by
> typing the following:
>
> net time /querysntp <enter>
>
> If set, you should see the time sync option (i.e. time.nist.gov).
>
> If not set you should see the following message:
>
> ------------
> U:\>net time /querysntp
> This computer is not currently configured to use a specific SNTP server.
>
> The command completed successfully.
> -------------
>
> The above message is normal and will cause the client to sync to the
> appropriate domain controller automatically.
>
> -Frank
>
>
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Richard G. Harper

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:55 am
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I think you misunderstood what Frank recommended.

If you have more than one domain controller you should find the domain
controller that is fulfilling the PDC Emulator role and set it up to
synchronize time with an outside source and leave the rest set up to get
their time from the PDC Emulator.

If you have only one domain controller then obviously it is the PDC Emulator
and it should be synchronizing time with an outside source

Kindly ignore the advice to do things like "run an NTP server and turn the
Windows time service off" as this is not good advice - it's actually
fighting against things that Windows and your DCs will automatically do if
you let them.

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"Mohammad-Ali" <txcrosslink.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Frankster Smile
>
> As you said:
>
>> This should be done on only the "PDC Emulator" Domain Controller (usually
>> the FSMO too). The other Domain Controllers (if any) should not be set to
>> sync to an external time source. They will go to the PDC Emulator by
> default
>> as long as you do not set a specific time source for them. (see below for
>> removing any previously set source)
>
> I didn't get you why we shouldn't set the timesynch on the PDC, I have a
> Win2k Domain Controller, what would happen if I set the time synch on it?
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David D

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Since: Oct 04, 2006
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:11 am
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In your mixed environment I should use NTP (http://www.ntp.org/index.html) , the "official" one.
It's likely it's already installed in you Linux,Unix and BSD computers (maybe even MacOS X as it's BSD-based.
For windows you just follow the links 2-3 steps on the NTP-page, or go directly to http://www.meinberg.de/english/sw/ntp.htm where you can find a Windows installer for NTP.
Configure it right and you have a very stable time sync.

And don't forget to disable the Windows Time Service as it interfere with NTP.

/David


Brian D. McGrew wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> I need to make my Windows 2000 Advanced Servers synchronize to an external
> time source. I run many other operating systems including Linux, Unix, BSD
> and MacOS and we all need to synchronize to the same clocks, so my questions
> are:
>
> 1) How do I make my Windows AD Servers synchronize to a time source of my
> specification?
>
> 2) I've been told that all Windows Clients (XP/2000Pro) use the time from
> the server, is this correct or do I need to modify all my clients to
> synchronize to this time source?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -brian
> moc tod orpnoisiv ta naird
> (to prevent spam, email address is typed in reverse order)
>
>
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Mohammad-Ali

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:21 am
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Thanks Richard, That helped Smile

Kind Regards,

"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message
news:OsCNVt55GHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I think you misunderstood what Frank recommended.
>
> If you have more than one domain controller you should find the domain
> controller that is fulfilling the PDC Emulator role and set it up to
> synchronize time with an outside source and leave the rest set up to get
> their time from the PDC Emulator.
>
> If you have only one domain controller then obviously it is the PDC
Emulator
> and it should be synchronizing time with an outside source
>
> Kindly ignore the advice to do things like "run an NTP server and turn the
> Windows time service off" as this is not good advice - it's actually
> fighting against things that Windows and your DCs will automatically do if
> you let them.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper.RemoveThis@gmail.com
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Mohammad-Ali" <txcrosslink.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ODHMIC35GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Frankster Smile
> >
> > As you said:
> >
> >> This should be done on only the "PDC Emulator" Domain Controller
(usually
> >> the FSMO too). The other Domain Controllers (if any) should not be set
to
> >> sync to an external time source. They will go to the PDC Emulator by
> > default
> >> as long as you do not set a specific time source for them. (see below
for
> >> removing any previously set source)
> >
> > I didn't get you why we shouldn't set the timesynch on the PDC, I have a
> > Win2k Domain Controller, what would happen if I set the time synch on
it?
>
>
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Richard G. Harper

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:21 am
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You're welcome.

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"Mohammad-Ali" <txcrosslink DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Richard, That helped Smile
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message
> news:OsCNVt55GHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I think you misunderstood what Frank recommended.
>>
>> If you have more than one domain controller you should find the domain
>> controller that is fulfilling the PDC Emulator role and set it up to
>> synchronize time with an outside source and leave the rest set up to get
>> their time from the PDC Emulator.
>>
>> If you have only one domain controller then obviously it is the PDC
> Emulator
>> and it should be synchronizing time with an outside source
>>
>> Kindly ignore the advice to do things like "run an NTP server and turn
>> the
>> Windows time service off" as this is not good advice - it's actually
>> fighting against things that Windows and your DCs will automatically do
>> if
>> you let them.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper DeleteThis @gmail.com
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
>> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Mohammad-Ali" <txcrosslink DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ODHMIC35GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi Frankster Smile
>> >
>> > As you said:
>> >
>> >> This should be done on only the "PDC Emulator" Domain Controller
> (usually
>> >> the FSMO too). The other Domain Controllers (if any) should not be set
> to
>> >> sync to an external time source. They will go to the PDC Emulator by
>> > default
>> >> as long as you do not set a specific time source for them. (see below
> for
>> >> removing any previously set source)
>> >
>> > I didn't get you why we shouldn't set the timesynch on the PDC, I have
>> > a
>> > Win2k Domain Controller, what would happen if I set the time synch on
> it?
>>
>>
>
>
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