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Jeff159

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:58 pm
Post subject: Migrating from NT4 to Win2k AD using ADMT
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I have a question that hopefully someone can help me with.. We are currently
still running a WinNT 4.0 PDC we also have another nt box that is a BDC. The
machine that is running the NT4 os is pretty old so I was wanting to use the
admt to migrate the data from one server to another. I built up a new server
with Win2k server and ran dcpromo on it. I went through the steps to install
active directory. When that was finished, I rebooted. Once the machin came
back up, I launched the admt program and want to test first and then migrate
so I enter

source domain = Current domain
Tarfer domain = new AD domain.

It kept coming back with an error sayign that the source could not be found.
I then thought that maybe I needed to setup a trust that trusts the NT4 dc
with the new 2000 server. That brought back errors saying it could not find
it.

Is there a step that I am overlooking? I really don't want to use my old PDC
as my new 2000 server. I would also rather not install NT4 on my new server
and do upgrade because I would rather have a larger c partition then what you
can use with NT.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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nt4-ever

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:26 pm
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might not be appropriate but see:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/Windows2000Pro/reskit/par...proch06
where "Boot.ini supports starting multiple versions of Windows 2000, as
well as starting other operating systems, such as Windows 95, Windows
98, Windows NT 4.0, MS-DOS, and OS/2"
ie you can install win2000 and have it boot to
NT 4 .. just make sure the folder names are
different ..

or as Calvin suggested in earlier post; might
be sufficent to Just have the \boot.ini, ntdetect.com
and \ntldr files from win2000 that can cope with
over 8GB partition and have the boot.ini point
to the NT4 C:\WINNT\system32\NTOSKRNL.EXE
folder ie [operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation
Version 4.00"

((thought he was bonkers for suggesting that
until i read re the win2000 dual-booting abilities;
assumption is that the NT4 NTOSKRNL.EXE
can cope with over 8GB partions ???))

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:15 pm
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nt4-ever wrote:

> or as Calvin suggested in earlier post; might
> be sufficent to Just have the \boot.ini, ntdetect.com
> and \ntldr files from win2000 that can cope with
> over 8GB partition and have the boot.ini point
> to the NT4 C:\WINNT\system32\NTOSKRNL.EXE
> folder ie [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation
> Version 4.00"
>
> ((thought he was bonkers for suggesting that
> until i read re the win2000 dual-booting abilities;
> assumption is that the NT4 NTOSKRNL.EXE
> can cope with over 8GB partions ???))

I can't claim originality for this idea - I can't remember who it was, but
somebody in these newsgroups suggested the it originally - I'm just the one who
repeated the suggestion, and have never tried it myself - I've never had the
need Smile

Calvin.
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Jeff159

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:28 am
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I am actually trying to migration from NT4 server to Win2k server.

"nt4-ever" wrote:

> might not be appropriate but see:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/Windows2000Pro/reskit/par...proch06
> where "Boot.ini supports starting multiple versions of Windows 2000, as
> well as starting other operating systems, such as Windows 95, Windows
> 98, Windows NT 4.0, MS-DOS, and OS/2"
> ie you can install win2000 and have it boot to
> NT 4 .. just make sure the folder names are
> different ..
>
> or as Calvin suggested in earlier post; might
> be sufficent to Just have the \boot.ini, ntdetect.com
> and \ntldr files from win2000 that can cope with
> over 8GB partition and have the boot.ini point
> to the NT4 C:\WINNT\system32\NTOSKRNL.EXE
> folder ie [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation
> Version 4.00"
>
> ((thought he was bonkers for suggesting that
> until i read re the win2000 dual-booting abilities;
> assumption is that the NT4 NTOSKRNL.EXE
> can cope with over 8GB partions ???))
>
>
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nt4-ever

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:48 pm
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Jeff said: "because I would rather have a larger c partition then what
you
can use with NT. "

read the earlier posts where it is possible
to have Any ((up to Two TerraBytes)) size
C: partition with NT4 ..
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:08 pm
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nt4-ever wrote:
> Jeff said: "because I would rather have a larger c partition then what
> you
> can use with NT. "
>
> read the earlier posts where it is possible
> to have Any ((up to Two TerraBytes)) size
> C: partition with NT4 ..
>

On most machines, the system and boot partitions are one and the
same: the C: partition.

That being the case, super-sizing your C: is usually an
incredibly stupid thing to do. Don't just take my word for it:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224526

You should also pay special attention to the paragraph that
begins with "In some cases, the boot partition must be entirely
within the first 7.8 GB of the drive."

If your boot and system partitions are not one and the same, then
be sure you understand the difference. This KB article should
explain it - except MicroSoft appears to have removed it:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=93496

A great NT4 reference site is run by this group's Calvin:
http://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/



I have had to rescue a lot of people who thought they could
resize their system partition to fill up a large hard drive. I'm
sure guys like Calvin and Dave Patrick have had to do the same.

Personally, I think it is a moot issue. If you think you need a
huge system partition, then you should re-evaluate just what the
heck you are doing. My standard is that I should be able to blow
away the system and/or boot partitions at any time with no loss
of data. When you don't use the system/boot partition for data,
then it is hard to need more than the 7.8 GB that it is safe to
use with NT4 - even if you have tons of RAM and a 4 GB page file.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:47 pm
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Rob said:
that being the case, super-sizing your C: is usually an
incredibly stupid thing to do. Don't just take my word for it:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224526

Point Rob if you had read Earlier
posts .. if you use the Win/2000 boot
files it should be possible to Boot
NT 4 into anysize (< 2 TeraBytes)
partition ??
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:12 am
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nt4-ever wrote:
> Rob said:
> that being the case, super-sizing your C: is usually an
> incredibly stupid thing to do. Don't just take my word for it:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224526
>
> Point Rob if you had read Earlier
> posts .. if you use the Win/2000 boot
> files it should be possible to Boot
> NT 4 into anysize (< 2 TeraBytes)
> partition ??
>

I should be getting another hard drive soon that will give me a
blank slate with which to test that.
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