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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:10 pm
Post subject: Laptops with Multiple Displays
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Hi All.........
Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on the market,
which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a clone of
the flip-up screen..........
Tks
Vaya con Dios,
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:35 am
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There are far too many makes and models on the market for anyone to be able
to provide that sort of information, but when you do your research for
yourself, it will be helpful to try to get the terminology straight (it's
not easy).
What you term 'real' is probably the mode where the desktop can be spread
across two or more physical displays to give you a single, large, logical
desktop that behaves like it's a single display. This is usually referred
to as the extended desktop mode - the desktop is extended to cover the
display devices. MS also called it DualView, although they seem to have
stopped using this term (becasue it can be more than two). It requires a
display adapter for each display (although in some cases there might be only
one display card, there must always be a display adapter device for each
display) Windows manages the multiple adapters to give the extended desktop
effect.
Laptops have almost always supported an external monitor attachemmnt, for
instance to use when the laptop is being used at a desk. The image from the
inbuilt display is made available at a connector for an external monitor.
This is often referred to as clone mode, however since laptops have been
doing this for years, it is also often referred to as multiple monitor or
similar, and this is where most of the confusion comes from. You will also
see it described simply as 'external montor'. Laptops vary in whether one
or both displays can be active, but in either case there is just the single
image.
Because laptops that support the extended desktop come with the dual display
drivers integrated into the system, they also often support a third mode,
where the multiple display monitors are driven by a single (logical)
adapter, and Windows simply sees one very large screen. The effect is very
similar to the Windows extended desktop mode, but it can circumvent problems
with some applications (such as games) that cannot cope with the extended
desktop. However, it may have some restrictions that extended mode doesn't
have, such as only working properly when the monitors are side-by-side
(Windows extended mode can cope with monitors in any position). This mode
is usually called span or stretched mode.
"CLR" <croberts DeleteThis @tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:eVX9du5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi All.........
>
> Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on the
> market,
> which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a clone of
> the flip-up screen..........
>
> Tks
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
>
>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:27 am
Post subject: Re: Laptops with Multiple Displays [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks for the info...........I guess I should have asked if anyone owns a
particular Make/Model laptop that is actually using Multiple
monitors.........I do consulting work and rarely does a client ever provide
good computer equipment on site. I just want a reasonably good laptop with
extra flat-panel display that I can haul around. I have three monitors on
my system at home and just about can't get by anymore with a one-tube system
<g>.
Thanks again..........
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"msnews.microsoft.com" <James Hahn> wrote in message
news:uAhest$PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> There are far too many makes and models on the market for anyone to be
able
> to provide that sort of information, but when you do your research for
> yourself, it will be helpful to try to get the terminology straight (it's
> not easy).
>
> What you term 'real' is probably the mode where the desktop can be spread
> across two or more physical displays to give you a single, large, logical
> desktop that behaves like it's a single display. This is usually referred
> to as the extended desktop mode - the desktop is extended to cover the
> display devices. MS also called it DualView, although they seem to have
> stopped using this term (becasue it can be more than two). It requires a
> display adapter for each display (although in some cases there might be
only
> one display card, there must always be a display adapter device for each
> display) Windows manages the multiple adapters to give the extended
desktop
> effect.
>
> Laptops have almost always supported an external monitor attachemmnt, for
> instance to use when the laptop is being used at a desk. The image from
the
> inbuilt display is made available at a connector for an external monitor.
> This is often referred to as clone mode, however since laptops have been
> doing this for years, it is also often referred to as multiple monitor or
> similar, and this is where most of the confusion comes from. You will
also
> see it described simply as 'external montor'. Laptops vary in whether one
> or both displays can be active, but in either case there is just the
single
> image.
>
> Because laptops that support the extended desktop come with the dual
display
> drivers integrated into the system, they also often support a third mode,
> where the multiple display monitors are driven by a single (logical)
> adapter, and Windows simply sees one very large screen. The effect is very
> similar to the Windows extended desktop mode, but it can circumvent
problems
> with some applications (such as games) that cannot cope with the extended
> desktop. However, it may have some restrictions that extended mode
doesn't
> have, such as only working properly when the monitors are side-by-side
> (Windows extended mode can cope with monitors in any position). This mode
> is usually called span or stretched mode.
>
> "CLR" <croberts.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:eVX9du5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi All.........
> >
> > Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on the
> > market,
> > which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a clone
of
> > the flip-up screen..........
> >
> > Tks
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:04 am
Post subject: Re: Laptops with Multiple Displays [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I am using a Toshiba A75 S229 and multiple monitors work great with it. It
shipped with Windows XP so that's what I am using.
I would guess that most, if not all, recent laptops support multiple
monitors. The laptop that I purchased in early 2000 (Winbook) supported
multiple monitors with Win98. Because of it's age, no display drivers were
written for it for WinXP so it does not support multiple monitors on XP. My
assumption is that if laptop manufacturers were supporting multimon in 2000,
then they are probably supporting it now. In any case, I'm sure that you
can find out from the manufacturer of any laptop that you are interested in.
Probably the best resource for multiple monitor information is
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/." target="_blank">http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</a>
PattyL
"CLR" <croberts DeleteThis @tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ut%23TUNBQFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the info...........I guess I should have asked if anyone owns a
> particular Make/Model laptop that is actually using Multiple
> monitors.........I do consulting work and rarely does a client ever
> provide
> good computer equipment on site. I just want a reasonably good laptop
> with
> extra flat-panel display that I can haul around. I have three monitors on
> my system at home and just about can't get by anymore with a one-tube
> system
> <g>.
>
> Thanks again..........
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
>
> "msnews.microsoft.com" <James Hahn> wrote in message
> news:uAhest$PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> There are far too many makes and models on the market for anyone to be
> able
>> to provide that sort of information, but when you do your research for
>> yourself, it will be helpful to try to get the terminology straight (it's
>> not easy).
>>
>> What you term 'real' is probably the mode where the desktop can be spread
>> across two or more physical displays to give you a single, large, logical
>> desktop that behaves like it's a single display. This is usually
>> referred
>> to as the extended desktop mode - the desktop is extended to cover the
>> display devices. MS also called it DualView, although they seem to have
>> stopped using this term (becasue it can be more than two). It requires a
>> display adapter for each display (although in some cases there might be
> only
>> one display card, there must always be a display adapter device for each
>> display) Windows manages the multiple adapters to give the extended
> desktop
>> effect.
>>
>> Laptops have almost always supported an external monitor attachemmnt, for
>> instance to use when the laptop is being used at a desk. The image from
> the
>> inbuilt display is made available at a connector for an external monitor.
>> This is often referred to as clone mode, however since laptops have been
>> doing this for years, it is also often referred to as multiple monitor or
>> similar, and this is where most of the confusion comes from. You will
> also
>> see it described simply as 'external montor'. Laptops vary in whether
>> one
>> or both displays can be active, but in either case there is just the
> single
>> image.
>>
>> Because laptops that support the extended desktop come with the dual
> display
>> drivers integrated into the system, they also often support a third mode,
>> where the multiple display monitors are driven by a single (logical)
>> adapter, and Windows simply sees one very large screen. The effect is
>> very
>> similar to the Windows extended desktop mode, but it can circumvent
> problems
>> with some applications (such as games) that cannot cope with the extended
>> desktop. However, it may have some restrictions that extended mode
> doesn't
>> have, such as only working properly when the monitors are side-by-side
>> (Windows extended mode can cope with monitors in any position). This
>> mode
>> is usually called span or stretched mode.
>>
>> "CLR" <croberts DeleteThis @tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:eVX9du5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi All.........
>> >
>> > Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on the
>> > market,
>> > which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a clone
> of
>> > the flip-up screen..........
>> >
>> > Tks
>> > Vaya con Dios,
>> > Chuck, CABGx3
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Laptops with Multiple Displays [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Well now, that's very helpful information...........thank you kind
Lady.........
I've seen ad's for Laptops that have self contained dual and even triple
monitors......but only drawings, no pictures. Do you know if anyone
actually has one on the market?
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"PattyL" <pattyl.DeleteThis@XXmvps.org> wrote in message
news:Of9P26qQFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I am using a Toshiba A75 S229 and multiple monitors work great with it.
It
> shipped with Windows XP so that's what I am using.
>
> I would guess that most, if not all, recent laptops support multiple
> monitors. The laptop that I purchased in early 2000 (Winbook) supported
> multiple monitors with Win98. Because of it's age, no display drivers
were
> written for it for WinXP so it does not support multiple monitors on XP.
My
> assumption is that if laptop manufacturers were supporting multimon in
2000,
> then they are probably supporting it now. In any case, I'm sure that you
> can find out from the manufacturer of any laptop that you are interested
in.
>
> Probably the best resource for multiple monitor information is
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font" target="_blank">http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font</a>>
>
> PattyL
>
> "CLR" <croberts.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ut%23TUNBQFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks for the info...........I guess I should have asked if anyone owns
a
> > particular Make/Model laptop that is actually using Multiple
> > monitors.........I do consulting work and rarely does a client ever
> > provide
> > good computer equipment on site. I just want a reasonably good laptop
> > with
> > extra flat-panel display that I can haul around. I have three monitors
on
> > my system at home and just about can't get by anymore with a one-tube
> > system
> > <g>.
> >
> > Thanks again..........
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> >
> > "msnews.microsoft.com" <James Hahn> wrote in message
> > news:uAhest$PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> There are far too many makes and models on the market for anyone to be
> > able
> >> to provide that sort of information, but when you do your research for
> >> yourself, it will be helpful to try to get the terminology straight
(it's
> >> not easy).
> >>
> >> What you term 'real' is probably the mode where the desktop can be
spread
> >> across two or more physical displays to give you a single, large,
logical
> >> desktop that behaves like it's a single display. This is usually
> >> referred
> >> to as the extended desktop mode - the desktop is extended to cover the
> >> display devices. MS also called it DualView, although they seem to
have
> >> stopped using this term (becasue it can be more than two). It requires
a
> >> display adapter for each display (although in some cases there might be
> > only
> >> one display card, there must always be a display adapter device for
each
> >> display) Windows manages the multiple adapters to give the extended
> > desktop
> >> effect.
> >>
> >> Laptops have almost always supported an external monitor attachemmnt,
for
> >> instance to use when the laptop is being used at a desk. The image from
> > the
> >> inbuilt display is made available at a connector for an external
monitor.
> >> This is often referred to as clone mode, however since laptops have
been
> >> doing this for years, it is also often referred to as multiple monitor
or
> >> similar, and this is where most of the confusion comes from. You will
> > also
> >> see it described simply as 'external montor'. Laptops vary in whether
> >> one
> >> or both displays can be active, but in either case there is just the
> > single
> >> image.
> >>
> >> Because laptops that support the extended desktop come with the dual
> > display
> >> drivers integrated into the system, they also often support a third
mode,
> >> where the multiple display monitors are driven by a single (logical)
> >> adapter, and Windows simply sees one very large screen. The effect is
> >> very
> >> similar to the Windows extended desktop mode, but it can circumvent
> > problems
> >> with some applications (such as games) that cannot cope with the
extended
> >> desktop. However, it may have some restrictions that extended mode
> > doesn't
> >> have, such as only working properly when the monitors are side-by-side
> >> (Windows extended mode can cope with monitors in any position). This
> >> mode
> >> is usually called span or stretched mode.
> >>
> >> "CLR" <croberts.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:eVX9du5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi All.........
> >> >
> >> > Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on the
> >> > market,
> >> > which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a
clone
> > of
> >> > the flip-up screen..........
> >> >
> >> > Tks
> >> > Vaya con Dios,
> >> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:35 pm
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There are many, many models that support the functionality you are asking
about, and I don't understand why you are having difficulty locating some.
See, for instance:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://h50025.www5.hp.com/hpcom/au_en/11_29_64_3693summary.html" target="_blank">http://h50025.www5.hp.com/hpcom/au_en/11_29_64_3693summary.html</a>
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"CLR" <croberts.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uxA4vWuQFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Well now, that's very helpful information...........thank you kind
> Lady.........
>
> I've seen ad's for Laptops that have self contained dual and even triple
> monitors......but only drawings, no pictures. Do you know if anyone
> actually has one on the market?
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
>
> "PattyL" <pattyl.TakeThisOut@XXmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:Of9P26qQFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> I am using a Toshiba A75 S229 and multiple monitors work great with it.
> It
>> shipped with Windows XP so that's what I am using.
>>
>> I would guess that most, if not all, recent laptops support multiple
>> monitors. The laptop that I purchased in early 2000 (Winbook) supported
>> multiple monitors with Win98. Because of it's age, no display drivers
> were
>> written for it for WinXP so it does not support multiple monitors on XP.
> My
>> assumption is that if laptop manufacturers were supporting multimon in
> 2000,
>> then they are probably supporting it now. In any case, I'm sure that you
>> can find out from the manufacturer of any laptop that you are interested
> in.
>>
>> Probably the best resource for multiple monitor information is
<font color=green> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font" target="_blank">http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font</a>>
>>
>> PattyL
>>
>> "CLR" <croberts.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:ut%23TUNBQFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Thanks for the info...........I guess I should have asked if anyone
>> > owns
> a
>> > particular Make/Model laptop that is actually using Multiple
>> > monitors.........I do consulting work and rarely does a client ever
>> > provide
>> > good computer equipment on site. I just want a reasonably good laptop
>> > with
>> > extra flat-panel display that I can haul around. I have three monitors
> on
>> > my system at home and just about can't get by anymore with a one-tube
>> > system
>> > <g>.
>> >
>> > Thanks again..........
>> >
>> > Vaya con Dios,
>> > Chuck, CABGx3
>> >
>> >
>> > "msnews.microsoft.com" <James Hahn> wrote in message
>> > news:uAhest$PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> There are far too many makes and models on the market for anyone to be
>> > able
>> >> to provide that sort of information, but when you do your research for
>> >> yourself, it will be helpful to try to get the terminology straight
> (it's
>> >> not easy).
>> >>
>> >> What you term 'real' is probably the mode where the desktop can be
> spread
>> >> across two or more physical displays to give you a single, large,
> logical
>> >> desktop that behaves like it's a single display. This is usually
>> >> referred
>> >> to as the extended desktop mode - the desktop is extended to cover the
>> >> display devices. MS also called it DualView, although they seem to
> have
>> >> stopped using this term (becasue it can be more than two). It
>> >> requires
> a
>> >> display adapter for each display (although in some cases there might
>> >> be
>> > only
>> >> one display card, there must always be a display adapter device for
> each
>> >> display) Windows manages the multiple adapters to give the extended
>> > desktop
>> >> effect.
>> >>
>> >> Laptops have almost always supported an external monitor attachemmnt,
> for
>> >> instance to use when the laptop is being used at a desk. The image
>> >> from
>> > the
>> >> inbuilt display is made available at a connector for an external
> monitor.
>> >> This is often referred to as clone mode, however since laptops have
> been
>> >> doing this for years, it is also often referred to as multiple monitor
> or
>> >> similar, and this is where most of the confusion comes from. You will
>> > also
>> >> see it described simply as 'external montor'. Laptops vary in whether
>> >> one
>> >> or both displays can be active, but in either case there is just the
>> > single
>> >> image.
>> >>
>> >> Because laptops that support the extended desktop come with the dual
>> > display
>> >> drivers integrated into the system, they also often support a third
> mode,
>> >> where the multiple display monitors are driven by a single (logical)
>> >> adapter, and Windows simply sees one very large screen. The effect is
>> >> very
>> >> similar to the Windows extended desktop mode, but it can circumvent
>> > problems
>> >> with some applications (such as games) that cannot cope with the
> extended
>> >> desktop. However, it may have some restrictions that extended mode
>> > doesn't
>> >> have, such as only working properly when the monitors are side-by-side
>> >> (Windows extended mode can cope with monitors in any position). This
>> >> mode
>> >> is usually called span or stretched mode.
>> >>
>> >> "CLR" <croberts.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:eVX9du5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi All.........
>> >> >
>> >> > Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on the
>> >> > market,
>> >> > which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a
> clone
>> > of
>> >> > the flip-up screen..........
>> >> >
>> >> > Tks
>> >> > Vaya con Dios,
>> >> > Chuck, CABGx3
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:03 am
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The chipset that has been in both my laptops is ATI. The newer one is an
ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 and the older one was an ATI Rage. You can check
out the ATI web site and find a list of manufacturers that use ATI chips in
their laptops. Other manufacturer's that use the ATI Mobility 9000 in one
or more notebook computers include Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, Hp, IBM, NEC, and
several others.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ati.com/buy/onboard/mobile/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.ati.com/buy/onboard/mobile/index.html</a>
Since ATI has been supporting multimon since Win98 released with this
feature, I'd guess that all of their chips support it. You still need to
double-check before you purchase because a computer manufacturer might not
have taken advantage of this feature.
NVIDIA also manufactures chipsets for mobile computers that support
Multi-display. They specifically mention the GeForce2 Go in a press
release.
This is just a start.
PattyL
"CLR" <croberts.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uxA4vWuQFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Well now, that's very helpful information...........thank you kind
> Lady.........
>
> I've seen ad's for Laptops that have self contained dual and even triple
> monitors......but only drawings, no pictures. Do you know if anyone
> actually has one on the market?
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
>
> "PattyL" <pattyl.TakeThisOut@XXmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:Of9P26qQFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> I am using a Toshiba A75 S229 and multiple monitors work great with it.
> It
>> shipped with Windows XP so that's what I am using.
>>
>> I would guess that most, if not all, recent laptops support multiple
>> monitors. The laptop that I purchased in early 2000 (Winbook) supported
>> multiple monitors with Win98. Because of it's age, no display drivers
> were
>> written for it for WinXP so it does not support multiple monitors on XP.
> My
>> assumption is that if laptop manufacturers were supporting multimon in
> 2000,
>> then they are probably supporting it now. In any case, I'm sure that you
>> can find out from the manufacturer of any laptop that you are interested
> in.
>>
>> Probably the best resource for multiple monitor information is
<font color=green> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font" target="_blank">http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font</a>>
>>
>> PattyL
>>
>> "CLR" <croberts.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:ut%23TUNBQFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Thanks for the info...........I guess I should have asked if anyone
>> > owns
> a
>> > particular Make/Model laptop that is actually using Multiple
>> > monitors.........I do consulting work and rarely does a client ever
>> > provide
>> > good computer equipment on site. I just want a reasonably good laptop
>> > with
>> > extra flat-panel display that I can haul around. I have three monitors
> on
>> > my system at home and just about can't get by anymore with a one-tube
>> > system
>> > <g>.
>> >
>> > Thanks again..........
>> >
>> > Vaya con Dios,
>> > Chuck, CABGx3
>> >
>> >
>> > "msnews.microsoft.com" <James Hahn> wrote in message
>> > news:uAhest$PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> There are far too many makes and models on the market for anyone to be
>> > able
>> >> to provide that sort of information, but when you do your research for
>> >> yourself, it will be helpful to try to get the terminology straight
> (it's
>> >> not easy).
>> >>
>> >> What you term 'real' is probably the mode where the desktop can be
> spread
>> >> across two or more physical displays to give you a single, large,
> logical
>> >> desktop that behaves like it's a single display. This is usually
>> >> referred
>> >> to as the extended desktop mode - the desktop is extended to cover the
>> >> display devices. MS also called it DualView, although they seem to
> have
>> >> stopped using this term (becasue it can be more than two). It
>> >> requires
> a
>> >> display adapter for each display (although in some cases there might
>> >> be
>> > only
>> >> one display card, there must always be a display adapter device for
> each
>> >> display) Windows manages the multiple adapters to give the extended
>> > desktop
>> >> effect.
>> >>
>> >> Laptops have almost always supported an external monitor attachemmnt,
> for
>> >> instance to use when the laptop is being used at a desk. The image
>> >> from
>> > the
>> >> inbuilt display is made available at a connector for an external
> monitor.
>> >> This is often referred to as clone mode, however since laptops have
> been
>> >> doing this for years, it is also often referred to as multiple monitor
> or
>> >> similar, and this is where most of the confusion comes from. You will
>> > also
>> >> see it described simply as 'external montor'. Laptops vary in whether
>> >> one
>> >> or both displays can be active, but in either case there is just the
>> > single
>> >> image.
>> >>
>> >> Because laptops that support the extended desktop come with the dual
>> > display
>> >> drivers integrated into the system, they also often support a third
> mode,
>> >> where the multiple display monitors are driven by a single (logical)
>> >> adapter, and Windows simply sees one very large screen. The effect is
>> >> very
>> >> similar to the Windows extended desktop mode, but it can circumvent
>> > problems
>> >> with some applications (such as games) that cannot cope with the
> extended
>> >> desktop. However, it may have some restrictions that extended mode
>> > doesn't
>> >> have, such as only working properly when the monitors are side-by-side
>> >> (Windows extended mode can cope with monitors in any position). This
>> >> mode
>> >> is usually called span or stretched mode.
>> >>
>> >> "CLR" <croberts.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:eVX9du5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi All.........
>> >> >
>> >> > Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on the
>> >> > market,
>> >> > which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a
> clone
>> > of
>> >> > the flip-up screen..........
>> >> >
>> >> > Tks
>> >> > Vaya con Dios,
>> >> > Chuck, CABGx3
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:11 pm
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Hi Jeff..........
Thanks for responding, ......I went to the site you recommended and was not
able to see any information about multiple display support. .....perhaps it
was on some link I missed, or what?
I am aware that there are "probably" many models out there that support
multiple displays, but I don't seem to see much of it in their ad's, and
when you ask a "salesman", his eyes just roll back in his head and drool
starts flowing and he mutters "Multiple displays"?..........
I was hoping to get the recommendations from some actual multi-monitor users
that had experience with specific models of laptops, either good or
bad..........perhaps I didn't word my post well enough.
I sure don't want to plunk down 1+large for a unit under the supposition
that it will support multiple displays and then find out "of course it won't
work very well with Excel, for example".
All I want is to compile a list of model numbers of units that qualify,
hopefully with recommendations or not, before I go shopping..........
Thanks again
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards.RemoveThis@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:O6z5ScvQFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> There are many, many models that support the functionality you are asking
> about, and I don't understand why you are having difficulty locating some.
> See, for instance:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://h50025.www5.hp.com/hpcom/au_en/11_29_64_3693summary.html</font" target="_blank">http://h50025.www5.hp.com/hpcom/au_en/11_29_64_3693summary.html</font</a>>
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "CLR" <croberts.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:uxA4vWuQFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Well now, that's very helpful information...........thank you kind
> > Lady.........
> >
> > I've seen ad's for Laptops that have self contained dual and even triple
> > monitors......but only drawings, no pictures. Do you know if anyone
> > actually has one on the market?
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> >
> > "PattyL" <pattyl.RemoveThis@XXmvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:Of9P26qQFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> I am using a Toshiba A75 S229 and multiple monitors work great with it.
> > It
> >> shipped with Windows XP so that's what I am using.
> >>
> >> I would guess that most, if not all, recent laptops support multiple
> >> monitors. The laptop that I purchased in early 2000 (Winbook)
supported
> >> multiple monitors with Win98. Because of it's age, no display drivers
> > were
> >> written for it for WinXP so it does not support multiple monitors on
XP.
> > My
> >> assumption is that if laptop manufacturers were supporting multimon in
> > 2000,
> >> then they are probably supporting it now. In any case, I'm sure that
you
> >> can find out from the manufacturer of any laptop that you are
interested
> > in.
> >>
> >> Probably the best resource for multiple monitor information is
<font color=brown> > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font" target="_blank">http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font</a>>
> >>
> >> PattyL
> >>
> >> "CLR" <croberts.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ut%23TUNBQFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > Thanks for the info...........I guess I should have asked if anyone
> >> > owns
> > a
> >> > particular Make/Model laptop that is actually using Multiple
> >> > monitors.........I do consulting work and rarely does a client ever
> >> > provide
> >> > good computer equipment on site. I just want a reasonably good
laptop
> >> > with
> >> > extra flat-panel display that I can haul around. I have three
monitors
> > on
> >> > my system at home and just about can't get by anymore with a one-tube
> >> > system
> >> > <g>.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again..........
> >> >
> >> > Vaya con Dios,
> >> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "msnews.microsoft.com" <James Hahn> wrote in message
> >> > news:uAhest$PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> There are far too many makes and models on the market for anyone to
be
> >> > able
> >> >> to provide that sort of information, but when you do your research
for
> >> >> yourself, it will be helpful to try to get the terminology straight
> > (it's
> >> >> not easy).
> >> >>
> >> >> What you term 'real' is probably the mode where the desktop can be
> > spread
> >> >> across two or more physical displays to give you a single, large,
> > logical
> >> >> desktop that behaves like it's a single display. This is usually
> >> >> referred
> >> >> to as the extended desktop mode - the desktop is extended to cover
the
> >> >> display devices. MS also called it DualView, although they seem to
> > have
> >> >> stopped using this term (becasue it can be more than two). It
> >> >> requires
> > a
> >> >> display adapter for each display (although in some cases there might
> >> >> be
> >> > only
> >> >> one display card, there must always be a display adapter device for
> > each
> >> >> display) Windows manages the multiple adapters to give the extended
> >> > desktop
> >> >> effect.
> >> >>
> >> >> Laptops have almost always supported an external monitor
attachemmnt,
> > for
> >> >> instance to use when the laptop is being used at a desk. The image
> >> >> from
> >> > the
> >> >> inbuilt display is made available at a connector for an external
> > monitor.
> >> >> This is often referred to as clone mode, however since laptops have
> > been
> >> >> doing this for years, it is also often referred to as multiple
monitor
> > or
> >> >> similar, and this is where most of the confusion comes from. You
will
> >> > also
> >> >> see it described simply as 'external montor'. Laptops vary in
whether
> >> >> one
> >> >> or both displays can be active, but in either case there is just the
> >> > single
> >> >> image.
> >> >>
> >> >> Because laptops that support the extended desktop come with the dual
> >> > display
> >> >> drivers integrated into the system, they also often support a third
> > mode,
> >> >> where the multiple display monitors are driven by a single (logical)
> >> >> adapter, and Windows simply sees one very large screen. The effect
is
> >> >> very
> >> >> similar to the Windows extended desktop mode, but it can circumvent
> >> > problems
> >> >> with some applications (such as games) that cannot cope with the
> > extended
> >> >> desktop. However, it may have some restrictions that extended mode
> >> > doesn't
> >> >> have, such as only working properly when the monitors are
side-by-side
> >> >> (Windows extended mode can cope with monitors in any position).
This
> >> >> mode
> >> >> is usually called span or stretched mode.
> >> >>
> >> >> "CLR" <croberts.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:eVX9du5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Hi All.........
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on
the
> >> >> > market,
> >> >> > which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a
> > clone
> >> > of
> >> >> > the flip-up screen..........
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tks
> >> >> > Vaya con Dios,
> >> >> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:14 pm
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NOW we're getting somewhere...........
Thank you muchly, kind Lady....
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"PattyL" <pattyl RemoveThis @XXmvps.org> wrote in message
news:Ob$I1b2QFHA.3140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> The chipset that has been in both my laptops is ATI. The newer one is an
> ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 and the older one was an ATI Rage. You can check
> out the ATI web site and find a list of manufacturers that use ATI chips
in
> their laptops. Other manufacturer's that use the ATI Mobility 9000 in one
> or more notebook computers include Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, Hp, IBM, NEC, and
> several others.
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ati.com/buy/onboard/mobile/index.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.ati.com/buy/onboard/mobile/index.html</font</a>>
>
> Since ATI has been supporting multimon since Win98 released with this
> feature, I'd guess that all of their chips support it. You still need to
> double-check before you purchase because a computer manufacturer might not
> have taken advantage of this feature.
>
> NVIDIA also manufactures chipsets for mobile computers that support
> Multi-display. They specifically mention the GeForce2 Go in a press
> release.
>
> This is just a start.
>
> PattyL
>
>
> "CLR" <croberts RemoveThis @tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:uxA4vWuQFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Well now, that's very helpful information...........thank you kind
> > Lady.........
> >
> > I've seen ad's for Laptops that have self contained dual and even triple
> > monitors......but only drawings, no pictures. Do you know if anyone
> > actually has one on the market?
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> >
> > "PattyL" <pattyl RemoveThis @XXmvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:Of9P26qQFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> I am using a Toshiba A75 S229 and multiple monitors work great with it.
> > It
> >> shipped with Windows XP so that's what I am using.
> >>
> >> I would guess that most, if not all, recent laptops support multiple
> >> monitors. The laptop that I purchased in early 2000 (Winbook)
supported
> >> multiple monitors with Win98. Because of it's age, no display drivers
> > were
> >> written for it for WinXP so it does not support multiple monitors on
XP.
> > My
> >> assumption is that if laptop manufacturers were supporting multimon in
> > 2000,
> >> then they are probably supporting it now. In any case, I'm sure that
you
> >> can find out from the manufacturer of any laptop that you are
interested
> > in.
> >>
> >> Probably the best resource for multiple monitor information is
<font color=brown> > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font" target="_blank">http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/.</font</a>>
> >>
> >> PattyL
> >>
> >> "CLR" <croberts RemoveThis @tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ut%23TUNBQFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > Thanks for the info...........I guess I should have asked if anyone
> >> > owns
> > a
> >> > particular Make/Model laptop that is actually using Multiple
> >> > monitors.........I do consulting work and rarely does a client ever
> >> > provide
> >> > good computer equipment on site. I just want a reasonably good
laptop
> >> > with
> >> > extra flat-panel display that I can haul around. I have three
monitors
> > on
> >> > my system at home and just about can't get by anymore with a one-tube
> >> > system
> >> > <g>.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again..........
> >> >
> >> > Vaya con Dios,
> >> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "msnews.microsoft.com" <James Hahn> wrote in message
> >> > news:uAhest$PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> There are far too many makes and models on the market for anyone to
be
> >> > able
> >> >> to provide that sort of information, but when you do your research
for
> >> >> yourself, it will be helpful to try to get the terminology straight
> > (it's
> >> >> not easy).
> >> >>
> >> >> What you term 'real' is probably the mode where the desktop can be
> > spread
> >> >> across two or more physical displays to give you a single, large,
> > logical
> >> >> desktop that behaves like it's a single display. This is usually
> >> >> referred
> >> >> to as the extended desktop mode - the desktop is extended to cover t
he
> >> >> display devices. MS also called it DualView, although they seem to
> > have
> >> >> stopped using this term (becasue it can be more than two). It
> >> >> requires
> > a
> >> >> display adapter for each display (although in some cases there might
> >> >> be
> >> > only
> >> >> one display card, there must always be a display adapter device for
> > each
> >> >> display) Windows manages the multiple adapters to give the extended
> >> > desktop
> >> >> effect.
> >> >>
> >> >> Laptops have almost always supported an external monitor
attachemmnt,
> > for
> >> >> instance to use when the laptop is being used at a desk. The image
> >> >> from
> >> > the
> >> >> inbuilt display is made available at a connector for an external
> > monitor.
> >> >> This is often referred to as clone mode, however since laptops have
> > been
> >> >> doing this for years, it is also often referred to as multiple
monitor
> > or
> >> >> similar, and this is where most of the confusion comes from. You
will
> >> > also
> >> >> see it described simply as 'external montor'. Laptops vary in
whether
> >> >> one
> >> >> or both displays can be active, but in either case there is just the
> >> > single
> >> >> image.
> >> >>
> >> >> Because laptops that support the extended desktop come with the dual
> >> > display
> >> >> drivers integrated into the system, they also often support a third
> > mode,
> >> >> where the multiple display monitors are driven by a single (logical)
> >> >> adapter, and Windows simply sees one very large screen. The effect
is
> >> >> very
> >> >> similar to the Windows extended desktop mode, but it can circumvent
> >> > problems
> >> >> with some applications (such as games) that cannot cope with the
> > extended
> >> >> desktop. However, it may have some restrictions that extended mode
> >> > doesn't
> >> >> have, such as only working properly when the monitors are
side-by-side
> >> >> (Windows extended mode can cope with monitors in any position).
This
> >> >> mode
> >> >> is usually called span or stretched mode.
> >> >>
> >> >> "CLR" <croberts RemoveThis @tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:eVX9du5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Hi All.........
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can any one tell me please, of the current models of Laptops on
the
> >> >> > market,
> >> >> > which ones might support "real" Multiple Displays......not just a
> > clone
> >> > of
> >> >> > the flip-up screen..........
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tks
> >> >> > Vaya con Dios,
> >> >> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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