Backing Up on Win98

The following information is from Windows 98 Second Edition. I do not think
it was different for the original edition.

"ozziesi" <ozziesi RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I don't have a back-up facility on my 'system tools,'
I will assume by 'system tools' you mean:
Start->Programs->Accessories->System Tools

>does anyone know where I can get hold of the file ? THx.
I will assume that you have access to your Windows 98 distribution CD or its
..cab files.
Start->Settings->Control Panel->Add and Remove Programs->
Windows Setup (tab)->Components: System Tools (from list)->
Details->Backup->checkbox

Select OK or Apply (as appropriate).

The program will be extracted from the .cab files.

Paul
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"ozziesi" <ozziesi.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I don't have a back-up facility on my 'system tools,' does anyone know
where
> I can get hold of the file ? THx.

Win98 offers MSBACKUP (adapted from Win.v.3) but it is
no good (and is unrecognized by WinXP) because limited
to max file sizes that now appear small and cannot
write backups to your CD. But hardware is now so cheap
you can do it yourself:
1. To a different hard drive via Windows (Copy and Paste)
2. Or else automated via a BATch file
e.g. XXCOPY C:/My*.* D/Docsback/
XXCOPY C:/Windows D/Winback
and so on
3. Or else to CD using your CD writiing software etc.

MSBACKUP belongs to the mindset of Disk Compression
(CMPAGENT): is notoriously unreliable, and simply
not needed for modern PCs at modern prices.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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ozziesi wrote:
| I don't have a back-up facility on my 'system tools,' does anyone
| know where I can get hold of the file ? THx.

MSBackup is visually impressive & certainly has endless docs. But it is
a poor tool for a full system backup. It has a 2 GB file size
limitation, (well, maybe it's 4 GB). You will not upgrade to a new OS
with it, as it is incompatible with other versions of itself. (Someone
did say you may install the old version to the new system, though.)
Also, you will go nuts trying to do incrementals, archive bits, etc.,
I'm sure. To do a full system restore from it, you need to fresh install
Windows first. (But Fuzzy Logic says no, per one of the following URLs.)
And there is tweaking involved. It WON'T be pretty. Take a look at...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=166172
Duplicating Windows 95/98/98 Second Edition Installation to a New Hard
Disk
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=187526
How to Restore Windows 98 from a Full System Backup
....or that, which still is a ton of potential trouble, & do you have a
"pcrestor"? Well, perhaps get it from this ton of additional
documentation...
http://www.vanwijk.com/-=%20Bookz%20=-/Special%20Edition%20Using%20Win...s%2098/
Special Edition Using Windows 98 -10- Backing Up Your Data

Once you have a functioning system, especially one close to a clean
install, do a full system backup. If you have multiple partitions, I
guess a backup is a bit more complex. It depends upon the ties between
the Registry & the other partitions, as to whether they must be backed
up concurrently. Also, if you've changed the hardware since the backup,
you may need to change it back before a restore.

http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/index.html Backup & partitioning strategy
http://www.acronis.com/products/trueimage/ TrueImage
http://www.arjsoftware.com ARJ Archiver
http://www.betterbackup.com/ Retrospect CD Backup
http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup
capabilities: Copy to HDD, or Image to HDD or to CD. (TBIView, freely
downloadable, can retrieve individual files from an Image.)
Shrink/expand your partitions without data loss. Multi-boot, if you
dare. Free, run from floppy, but pay up as I did if satisfied. To
install & use beyond 30 days, $34.95.
http://www.cdrfaq.org/ CD R/W Backup
http://www.cyberiapc.com/backup.htm MyOwnBackup (MOB) (Free)
http://www.han-soft.com/habt.php Auto Backup (30-day free trial)
http://www.karenware.com/ PtReplicator (Free)
http://www.lifesaverbackup.com/
http://www.mvps.org/links.html Should have good info
http://www.pcmag.com/ Lots & lots of sturdy downloads. There is a $20
yearly charge now.
http://www.pcinspector.de/clone-maxx/uk/welcome.htm PC Inspector
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic Partition Magic
http://www.ranish.com/part/ Ranish Partition Manager
http://www.simtel.net/pub/dl/58307.shtml Files Manager & other stuff
http://www.stompsoft.com/pc-backup/pc-backup.html?SourceID=BUMP_301
http://www.thirdstar.net/thirdstar_datarecovery.htm Data recovery
http://www.v-com.com/product/pc_ind.html Partition Commander
http://www.xxcopy.com/ Yabumoto's Detailed Procedure Copy (Free)
http://www.zeleps.com/ Partition re-sizer (Free)

All gathered at this site. Whichever you choose, approach it carefully
and verify all is well. After making a copy, run Scandisk/Defrag on it.
If it's an Image, use it's verify option; perhaps, restore it and do a
Scandisk/Defrag.

http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free version

This one supposedly backs up all currently installed drivers, such
that they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen a favorable
report/three-- & one (by Glee) that was so-so (or worse). SO, BETTER
make a full system backup, before wiping Windows.

--
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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
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"ozziesi" wrote:

> I don't have a back-up facility on my 'system tools,' does anyone know where
> I can gFrom Discussion Group: Windows 95 Applications
Subject: Backup file is missing from my windows 98 SE CD
Date: 9/30/2007 4:42 PM PST
From: RedThoJr



I am trying to backup my files to upgrade to windows XP Pro. The backup file
is not in the systems Accessories, tools section.
I tried to install it going through the Start, Setting, Control pannal, Add
/ Remove programs. Windows setup system. I am promted to incert the Systems
CD and when I do I get a message that MSBACKUP.COM can not be located. For
some reason the backup program is not on my Windows 98 Second Edition CD for
PC without Windows. I was directed to microsoft web site to down load it, but
I have spent hours looking for it and have not been able to locate it. Can
some one direct me to the proper place on the site to locate it.


et hold of the file ? THx.
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"RedThoJr" <RedThoJr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> "ozziesi" wrote:
>
> > I don't have a back-up facility on my 'system tools,' does anyone know
where
> > I can gFrom Discussion Group: Windows 95 Applications
>
> I am trying to backup my files to upgrade to windows XP Pro. The backup
file
> is not in the systems Accessories, tools section.
> I tried to install it going through the Start, Setting, Control pannal,
Add
> / Remove programs. Windows setup system. I am promted to incert the
Systems
> CD and when I do I get a message that MSBACKUP.COM can not be located.

MSBACKUP (1) is not reliable, i.e. is notoriously
prone to lose data, (2) is not supported by WinXP
(because of #1).

Backup utilities which condensed data (to save disk
space) have not really been needed since hard drive
space became so cheap (before XP was marketed.)
Windows protection arrangements prohibit copying
certain system files but the free utility at www.xxcopy.com
avoids these restrictions.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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You don't want to use MSBackup in Win98 for restoration in XP:

Cannot Restore Backups That You Create in Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Me with
the Windows XP Ntbackup Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305381

I wouldn't want to use the MSBackup program anyway. I find it too unreliable.

How to install MS Backup:
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/a...ive/l09

The file is not a .com file, it is an .exe file, BTW.

If you just have some files you want to transfer, use Winzip or another zip utility
to zip your files and then burn them to CDs.

If you want to copy files and settings from Win98 to XP, see here:

File & Settings Transfer Wizard
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/fast.htm

Moving Files and Settings to a New PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/getstarted/bott_fstw.mspx

How to use the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard with a wizard disk in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306187

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"RedThoJr" <RedThoJr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "ozziesi" wrote:
>
>> I don't have a back-up facility on my 'system tools,' does anyone know where
>> I can gFrom Discussion Group: Windows 95 Applications
> Subject: Backup file is missing from my windows 98 SE CD
> Date: 9/30/2007 4:42 PM PST
> From: RedThoJr
>
>
>
> I am trying to backup my files to upgrade to windows XP Pro. The backup file
> is not in the systems Accessories, tools section.
> I tried to install it going through the Start, Setting, Control pannal, Add
> / Remove programs. Windows setup system. I am promted to incert the Systems
> CD and when I do I get a message that MSBACKUP.COM can not be located. For
> some reason the backup program is not on my Windows 98 Second Edition CD for
> PC without Windows. I was directed to microsoft web site to down load it, but
> I have spent hours looking for it and have not been able to locate it. Can
> some one direct me to the proper place on the site to locate it.
>
>
> et hold of the file ? THx.
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