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sandy j

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:00 am
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Hi,
Does anyone have an opinion as to which inexpensive usb turntable is the
best? I've read a couple of reviews, and all I got was confused. Also, do
you have a suggestion for software that will remove most of the noise?

Thanks for your help
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R. McCarty1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:13 am
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They ( USB turntables ) are a fairly expensive item. Do you intend to
simply convert your Vinyl recordings to digital or actually play albums
with it ? Most of the USB turntables include a version of Audacity that
can be used to remove "Pops-&-Clicks" and other noise.

Personally, I have a standard turntable and a RIAA Pre-amp setup to
convert vinyl to digital. Both items together cost less than $70. I guess
the convenience of USB with a built-in pre amplifier for ~$160 might
be worth it - but not if you're simply converting a small collection of
vinyl records.

"sandy j" <sandyj RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> Does anyone have an opinion as to which inexpensive usb turntable is the
> best? I've read a couple of reviews, and all I got was confused. Also,
> do
> you have a suggestion for software that will remove most of the noise?
>
> Thanks for your help
> --
> sandy j

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sandy j

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:13 am
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Thanks for your speedy response. I want to convert my vinyl to cd. I've
read several articles about using RIAA preamp and felt I was a fish out of
the water (a few years ago I read another article stating you could blow your
sound card if not done exactly right). I think I have about 100 to 150 lp's
to convert, and I've seen usb turntables on line for lowest $8?.?? for a low
end ION and STANTON for about $149.??. I like the idea of using the preamp
(do you also need to have speakers plugged into the amp?) , but I'm not as
technical as I use to be.

Thanks for any additional help you can provide
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"R. McCarty" wrote:

> They ( USB turntables ) are a fairly expensive item. Do you intend to
> simply convert your Vinyl recordings to digital or actually play albums
> with it ? Most of the USB turntables include a version of Audacity that
> can be used to remove "Pops-&-Clicks" and other noise.
>
> Personally, I have a standard turntable and a RIAA Pre-amp setup to
> convert vinyl to digital. Both items together cost less than $70. I guess
> the convenience of USB with a built-in pre amplifier for ~$160 might
> be worth it - but not if you're simply converting a small collection of
> vinyl records.
>
> "sandy j" <sandyj.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2C928EBF-86CA-48E0-982D-2D3DDFB11EC0@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> > Does anyone have an opinion as to which inexpensive usb turntable is the
> > best? I've read a couple of reviews, and all I got was confused. Also,
> > do
> > you have a suggestion for software that will remove most of the noise?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> > --
> > sandy j
>
>
>
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R. McCarty1

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:02 pm
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An RIAA Pre-amp is used to correct the mastering of Vinyl recording.
Generally, an album is mastered with a reduced Bass level. The Pre-Amp
restores a Flat response curve to the recording. Without a Preamp any
vinyl recording will have a "Tinny" sound to it.

I'd check around for a used turntable and amplifier. You can probably
get one for far less than a USB unit. The only questionable thing might be
the quality of the Cartridge/Needle in the turntable.

Conversion is a time consuming process. You have to capture audio,
clean it up, save to proper output format and then add Metadata to the
individual tracks. Unless the albums are "Rare", it might be simpler to
get them as downloads from services such as Rhapsody or iTunes but
with those you have to deal with the dreaded DRM.

"sandy j" <sandyj.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your speedy response. I want to convert my vinyl to cd. I've
> read several articles about using RIAA preamp and felt I was a fish out of
> the water (a few years ago I read another article stating you could blow
> your
> sound card if not done exactly right). I think I have about 100 to 150
> lp's
> to convert, and I've seen usb turntables on line for lowest $8?.?? for a
> low
> end ION and STANTON for about $149.??. I like the idea of using the
> preamp
> (do you also need to have speakers plugged into the amp?) , but I'm not as
> technical as I use to be.
>
> Thanks for any additional help you can provide
> --
> sandy j
>
>
> "R. McCarty" wrote:
>
>> They ( USB turntables ) are a fairly expensive item. Do you intend to
>> simply convert your Vinyl recordings to digital or actually play albums
>> with it ? Most of the USB turntables include a version of Audacity that
>> can be used to remove "Pops-&-Clicks" and other noise.
>>
>> Personally, I have a standard turntable and a RIAA Pre-amp setup to
>> convert vinyl to digital. Both items together cost less than $70. I guess
>> the convenience of USB with a built-in pre amplifier for ~$160 might
>> be worth it - but not if you're simply converting a small collection of
>> vinyl records.
>>
>> "sandy j" <sandyj.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2C928EBF-86CA-48E0-982D-2D3DDFB11EC0@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> > Does anyone have an opinion as to which inexpensive usb turntable is
>> > the
>> > best? I've read a couple of reviews, and all I got was confused.
>> > Also,
>> > do
>> > you have a suggestion for software that will remove most of the noise?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help
>> > --
>> > sandy j
>>
>>
>>
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nick

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:26 pm
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I have an older JVC table plugged into the phono
inputs of an older low end receiver. The tape out
of the receiver plugs into the Line In of the sound
card. All rca plugs.

I then use Audio Grabber to record the Line In and
store as WAV files on the PC. Nero burns them
as audio CDs.

Currently recording some really old Miles and Sonny Rollins.
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sandy j

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:26 pm
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Hi Nick,
Thanks for replying to my query. I have an old turntable, but I think it
may need a new belt, and I don't have an extra amp. The one I have is wired
and stapled in place and I would need a blue print to undo it. Do you know
anything about preamp R. McCarthy spoke of? Oh! Do you need to have extra
speakers, or will the sound come from the computer speakers while
recording/burning?
I didn't think anyone was still listening to Sonny Rollins or Miles. I
don't have much if any jazz, most of my collection if you want to call it
that, is 60's 70's & 80's, some of which hasn't been put on cd, and in the
end it will be cheaper to make my own.

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"nick" wrote:

> I have an older JVC table plugged into the phono
> inputs of an older low end receiver. The tape out
> of the receiver plugs into the Line In of the sound
> card. All rca plugs.
>
> I then use Audio Grabber to record the Line In and
> store as WAV files on the PC. Nero burns them
> as audio CDs.
>
> Currently recording some really old Miles and Sonny Rollins.
>
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chuck

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:26 pm
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sandy j wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> Thanks for replying to my query. I have an old turntable, but I think it
> may need a new belt, and I don't have an extra amp. The one I have is wired
> and stapled in place and I would need a blue print to undo it. Do you know
> anything about preamp R. McCarthy spoke of? Oh! Do you need to have extra
> speakers, or will the sound come from the computer speakers while
> recording/burning?

I just use the computer speakers to monitor the process.

As for a receiver, I have picked up a few at local thrift
shops for $5 and $10 per. As I am just using the pre-amp
section to go out thru tape out, quality seems unimportant.
Right this minute I am recording an OLD dave brubeck thru
a Vector Research stereo receiver (with an old slide-rule
radio dial). The receiver replaces the pre-amp that
R. McCarthy spoke of.
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Thee Chicago Wolf

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:02 pm
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David H. Lipman

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:02 pm
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From: "Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.>

< snip >

|
| I did once see a couple other USB turntable models but it's all about
| your needs I guess. DO you only need 33 1/3 and 45 RPM? 16 RPM? 78RPM?
|
| - Thee Chicago Wolf

16rpm ?

That's one standard I never heard of and I had plenty of "old" 78's.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:02 pm
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You get on low battery. Smile

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.>
>
> < snip >
>
> |
> | I did once see a couple other USB turntable models but it's all about
> | your needs I guess. DO you only need 33 1/3 and 45 RPM? 16 RPM? 78RPM?
> |
> | - Thee Chicago Wolf
>
> 16rpm ?
>
> That's one standard I never heard of and I had plenty of "old" 78's.
>
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> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:02 pm
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From: "Tony Meloche" <labombarda.DeleteThis@hollow.oak>

>>
>> 16rpm ?
>>
>> That's one standard I never heard of and I had plenty of "old" 78's.
|
| Was used many years ago for "spoken word" recordings.
|
| Tony

That makes sense as the fidelity at such a low speed could not be good.

OT:
I have a recording of my mother from WWII. It is in the form of a recording made on a
special mailer for US troops in WWII. The recording was made on some kind of semi-soft
material laid on the cardboard mailer and once the audio recording was made you could fold
it up, place a stamp on the outside and mail it like a post card to the serviceman.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:12 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:22 pm
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From: "Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.>

>> 16rpm ?
>>
>> That's one standard I never heard of and I had plenty of "old" 78's.
|
| There were old 14" and 16" transcription records at that speed.
|
| - Thee Chicago Wolf

Then they for business and not for commercial use ?

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