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Terry

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:03 pm
Post subject: Can updates be downloaded to disks?
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My daughter is running XP sp2 and can't download most updates because her
server times out. Can I download the needed XP updates with my Vista and put
on disk for her to install on hers? If I get her to get the list of needed
updates can I find them separately to d/load to a file and put them on a disk
for her to update her XP?
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Shenan Stanley

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Can updates be downloaded to disks? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Terry wrote:
> My daughter is running XP sp2 and can't download most updates
> because her server times out. Can I download the needed XP updates
> with my Vista and put on disk for her to install on hers? If I get
> her to get the list of needed updates can I find them separately to
> d/load to a file and put them on a disk for her to update her XP?

First - do some repair on her system...

As many will tell you - ignore the title and symptoms listed in the article
referred to. Do method 1 and 2 and see if it fixes your issue whether or
not you repaired anything.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
Try method 1 and try to update*.
If fails - try method 2 and try to update*.

*try to update:
- Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
- If it asks you to install anything before you see a selection of "Custom"
or "Express" - do so.
- Once you see the "Custom" or "Express" selection, choose "Custom".
- Scan for updates.
- When it lists what it finds - install the critical ones.
- You are generally safe doing the Optional Software Updates. I suggest
avoiding the Optional Hardware Updates completely.

(Do them in any case - may not help - won't hurt.)

As for getting the updates...

Each month Microsoft puts out that months patches in an ISO format for
burning to CD:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086 (Back to 2006)


You can see the critical (security and other) patches released for a given
month using the following:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms##-***.mspx

At the end of this line you see "ms##-***.mspx" .. If you simply replace ##
with the two-digit year and the *** with the three character month
abbreviation, you will see the list of "critical" and "important" patches
for that month (since it only happens once a month usually, if you check by
the second Tuesday (wait until afternoon) of each month - you should be
fine) - note that future months will not work.

As an example...

December 2004's patches..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-dec.mspx

March 2005's patches..
None released.. so that one will fail...

May 2006's patches..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms06-may.mspx

January 2007's patches..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms07-jan.mspx

April 2008's patches..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms08-apr.mspx

There's at least one third party tool that will download all of them for
you:
http://wud.jcarle.com/

Beyond that - you could get SP3 and post SP3 updates...

A place to get FREE support for SP3 installation issues *from Microsoft*...
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb...88-8c50

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals
and Developers
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B33B5A8-5E76...1F-BE08

WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3...ad-all-

Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e...7aa8c63

Key things to note:

Internet Explorer:
"If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta
version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP
SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
"If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center
Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To
avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows
XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."

It seems some people are unable to get further updates after installing
SP3... Seems some have experienced a symptom similar to doing a repair
installation on Windows XP - and the same fix seems to work for them for
that...

Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
installation
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

Some people experience an "endless reboot" issue...

From PA Bear [MS MVP]:
Workarounds:

http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
[NB: The above has been updated many times and now includes "a small tool
that will detect the IntelPPM problem and mitigate it before installing
[WinXP SP3]."

1. Boot into Safe Mode and rename INTELPMM.SYS to INTELPMM.OLD.
2. After booting into Safe Mode:
Start --> Run --> (copy/paste)
sc config intelppm start= disabled
--> OK --> Reboot into normal (Windows) mode.

Other references include:
.. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=187790#p187790
..
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
.. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
..
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasi...rticleI
.. You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to Windows
XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a non-Intel-processor-based computer
(Revised 06 May-0Cool
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372

Some people have gotten an "Access Denied" message when trying to install
SP3... Method 3 of this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377


Beyond that - some simple maintenance might be needed - like installing the
latest hardware drivers from your hardware vendors...

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Terry

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Can updates be downloaded to disks? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ok, I will have to go over all of that information, but I hadn't intended to
install SP3 until all the others are up to date first. So, if I understand
you, I can download her needed updates to CD then she can update her system
before making the decision to install SP3


--
Terry


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Terry wrote:
> > My daughter is running XP sp2 and can't download most updates
> > because her server times out. Can I download the needed XP updates
> > with my Vista and put on disk for her to install on hers? If I get
> > her to get the list of needed updates can I find them separately to
> > d/load to a file and put them on a disk for her to update her XP?
>
> First - do some repair on her system...
>
> As many will tell you - ignore the title and symptoms listed in the article
> referred to. Do method 1 and 2 and see if it fixes your issue whether or
> not you repaired anything.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
> Try method 1 and try to update*.
> If fails - try method 2 and try to update*.
>
> *try to update:
> - Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
> - If it asks you to install anything before you see a selection of "Custom"
> or "Express" - do so.
> - Once you see the "Custom" or "Express" selection, choose "Custom".
> - Scan for updates.
> - When it lists what it finds - install the critical ones.
> - You are generally safe doing the Optional Software Updates. I suggest
> avoiding the Optional Hardware Updates completely.
>
> (Do them in any case - may not help - won't hurt.)
>
> As for getting the updates...
>
> Each month Microsoft puts out that months patches in an ISO format for
> burning to CD:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086 (Back to 2006)
>
>
> You can see the critical (security and other) patches released for a given
> month using the following:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms##-***.mspx
>
> At the end of this line you see "ms##-***.mspx" .. If you simply replace ##
> with the two-digit year and the *** with the three character month
> abbreviation, you will see the list of "critical" and "important" patches
> for that month (since it only happens once a month usually, if you check by
> the second Tuesday (wait until afternoon) of each month - you should be
> fine) - note that future months will not work.
>
> As an example...
>
> December 2004's patches..
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-dec.mspx
>
> March 2005's patches..
> None released.. so that one will fail...
>
> May 2006's patches..
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms06-may.mspx
>
> January 2007's patches..
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms07-jan.mspx
>
> April 2008's patches..
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms08-apr.mspx
>
> There's at least one third party tool that will download all of them for
> you:
> http://wud.jcarle.com/
>
> Beyond that - you could get SP3 and post SP3 updates...
>
> A place to get FREE support for SP3 installation issues *from Microsoft*...
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>
> Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb...88-8c50
>
> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals
> and Developers
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B33B5A8-5E76...1F-BE08
>
> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3...ad-all-
>
> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
>
> Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e...7aa8c63
>
> Key things to note:
>
> Internet Explorer:
> "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
> Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
> Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta
> version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP
> SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
> uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
>
> Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
> "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center
> Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To
> avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
> this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows
> XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
>
> It seems some people are unable to get further updates after installing
> SP3... Seems some have experienced a symptom similar to doing a repair
> installation on Windows XP - and the same fix seems to work for them for
> that...
>
> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
> installation
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
>
> Some people experience an "endless reboot" issue...
>
> From PA Bear [MS MVP]:
> Workarounds:
>
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
> [NB: The above has been updated many times and now includes "a small tool
> that will detect the IntelPPM problem and mitigate it before installing
> [WinXP SP3]."
>
> 1. Boot into Safe Mode and rename INTELPMM.SYS to INTELPMM.OLD.
> 2. After booting into Safe Mode:
> Start --> Run --> (copy/paste)
> sc config intelppm start= disabled
> --> OK --> Reboot into normal (Windows) mode.
>
> Other references include:
> .. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=187790#p187790
> ..
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
> .. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
> ..
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasi...rticleI
> .. You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to Windows
> XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a non-Intel-processor-based computer
> (Revised 06 May-0Cool
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372
>
> Some people have gotten an "Access Denied" message when trying to install
> SP3... Method 3 of this article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
>
>
> Beyond that - some simple maintenance might be needed - like installing the
> latest hardware drivers from your hardware vendors...
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>
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Shenan Stanley

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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<snipped>

Terry wrote:
> Ok, I will have to go over all of that information, but I hadn't
> intended to install SP3 until all the others are up to date first.
> So, if I understand you, I can download her needed updates to CD
> then she can update her system before making the decision to
> install SP3

Yes - but SP3 is all the updates released after SP2 up until SP3 was
released - so installing all the updates fom SP2 on - and then installing
SP3 - that is like double-work. Wink

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MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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TaurArian

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:31 pm
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You can also download individual updates from the Catalog and save to be installed later.
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Home.aspx

Click Add button for each update you want to download. Once you have what you want, Click
the "Go To Download Basket" link. Type in or browse to the location where you want the
updates saved to and then Click the "Download Now" button.
Once downloaded, you can then burn them to CD.

How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog or from the Microsoft
Update Catalog
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

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"Terry" <Terry.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| My daughter is running XP sp2 and can't download most updates because her
| server times out. Can I download the needed XP updates with my Vista and put
| on disk for her to install on hers? If I get her to get the list of needed
| updates can I find them separately to d/load to a file and put them on a disk
| for her to update her XP?
| --
| Terry
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