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thfc1882

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:36 am
Post subject: ide disk not found on SATA port
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Hi,

I hope someone can help me with this - my brother just bought a new
motherboard, processor, memory and case and has put it all together.

We've only now discovered that the board had 1 IDE port and he only has
an ATA HD plus a dvd drive and cd burner. So, he bought a IDE to SATA
adaptor so he could plug his ATA HD into a SATA port (of which there
are 6).

Here is the problem - the IDE HD already has XP installed so is his
boot drive, but it's not being recognized on startup.

Any clues what we are doing wrong or how to get the disk recognized and
booting?

All help gratefully received!

Ian

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Shenan Stanley

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:27 am
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thfc1882 wrote:
> I hope someone can help me with this - my brother just bought a new
> motherboard, processor, memory and case and has put it all together.
>
> We've only now discovered that the board had 1 IDE port and he only
> has an ATA HD plus a dvd drive and cd burner. So, he bought a IDE
> to SATA adaptor so he could plug his ATA HD into a SATA port (of
> which there are 6).
>
> Here is the problem - the IDE HD already has XP installed so is his
> boot drive, but it's not being recognized on startup.
>
> Any clues what we are doing wrong or how to get the disk recognized
> and booting?
>
> All help gratefully received!

Is it recognized at all in the System BIOS?
If not - there's your issue - nothing to do with HP - and more than likely -
not going to work.

More information would be needed to troubleshoot - like the make/model of
the drive and make/model of the motherboard...
Although - to be truthful - if the motherboard is not recognizing the
drive - your problem most certainly is not a Windows XP one.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Anna

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:26 pm
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> thfc1882 wrote:
>> I hope someone can help me with this - my brother just bought a new
>> motherboard, processor, memory and case and has put it all together.
>>
>> We've only now discovered that the board had 1 IDE port and he only
>> has an ATA HD plus a dvd drive and cd burner. So, he bought a IDE
>> to SATA adaptor so he could plug his ATA HD into a SATA port (of
>> which there are 6).
>>
>> Here is the problem - the IDE HD already has XP installed so is his
>> boot drive, but it's not being recognized on startup.
>>
>> Any clues what we are doing wrong or how to get the disk recognized
>> and booting?
>>
>> All help gratefully received!


"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message

> Is it recognized at all in the System BIOS?
> If not - there's your issue - nothing to do with HP - and more than
> likely - not going to work.
>
> More information would be needed to troubleshoot - like the make/model of
> the drive and make/model of the motherboard...
> Although - to be truthful - if the motherboard is not recognizing the
> drive - your problem most certainly is not a Windows XP one.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


thfc1882:
I'll get to your specific query in a moment, but before doing so let me make
the following comments...

1. We have run into more than a few problems with these IDE to SATA
connectors in that sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. It's not a
device that we ordinarily recommend. So keep that in mind.

2. Assuming the additional expense could be tolerated by your brother, could
he consider this alternate configuration for his new SATA-capable system?
a. Install your brother's present PATA HDD in a USB external hard drive
enclosure. Then you can use that HDD as a backup HDD using whatever backup
program he presently uses (he does use one, right?). Better still would be
to use a disk imaging program such as Acronis True Image to establish &
maintain a comprehensive backup system.
b. Purchase a SATA HDD (one of the newer SATA II models) and use the disk
imaging program to clone the contents of the PATA HDD (now in its external
enclosure) to the new SATA HDD. Are you aware that it's a virtual certainty
that he will have to perform a Repair installation of XP because of the new
motherboard?

3. If the above has no appeal to you/him and his only interest is to use his
present PATA HDD as an SATA device...
a. Check his motherboard user's guide to see if it's necessary to install
SATA drivers. As Shenan has indicated, it would be helpful to know the
make/model of the new motherboard. But in any event carefully review its
user manual for information re SATA HDD detection.
b. When you say "... the IDE HD already has XP installed so is his boot
drive, but it's not being recognized on startup.", what exactly does this
mean? Are you indicating that the XP system on that HDD is from a previous
system? A different computer?
c. As Shenan has asked - is the drive recognized by the motherboard's BIOS?
What precisely happens when you (he) attempts to boot? Error message(s)? A
black screen? As I've indicated above, are you aware that in all likelihood
a Repair install of XP will be necessary following the installation of a new
motherboard before the system will properly boot? Do you know how to
undertake a Repair install? If you do a Google search on "XP repair
install", you'll be pointed to many of these sites. Here are a few...
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=138

4. One thing your brother may also want to try in the meantime is to connect
his PATA HDD to an IDE channel and see what happens. I'm assuming it won't
boot because of the need for a Repair install of XP - but let's see what
happens...

5. And I'm assuming in all this that your brother has assembled his new
computer properly. If he inserts his XP installation CD in one of his
optical drives, the system will boot to the CD, right?
Anna
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DL

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:04 pm
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It is unlikely to boot, even if seen, as the hardware has changed.

Its possible that your mobo requires you to install sata/raid drivers from
floppy during the installation/repair of winxp

Install the disk on the ide drive, end connector, the cable should have
another connector you can plug into the CD.
Then repair winxp and install mobo chipset and other drivers.

Or a better solution, buy a sata drive, clean install winxp
PS Next time read the specs of what you are buying

wrote in message

> Hi,
>
> I hope someone can help me with this - my brother just bought a new
> motherboard, processor, memory and case and has put it all together.
>
> We've only now discovered that the board had 1 IDE port and he only has
> an ATA HD plus a dvd drive and cd burner. So, he bought a IDE to SATA
> adaptor so he could plug his ATA HD into a SATA port (of which there
> are 6).
>
> Here is the problem - the IDE HD already has XP installed so is his
> boot drive, but it's not being recognized on startup.
>
> Any clues what we are doing wrong or how to get the disk recognized and
> booting?
>
> All help gratefully received!
>
> Ian
>
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AJR

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:04 pm
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Just curious - One IDE controller! - from where did the new board come?

"DL" wrote in message

> It is unlikely to boot, even if seen, as the hardware has changed.
>
> Its possible that your mobo requires you to install sata/raid drivers from
> floppy during the installation/repair of winxp
>
> Install the disk on the ide drive, end connector, the cable should have
> another connector you can plug into the CD.
> Then repair winxp and install mobo chipset and other drivers.
>
> Or a better solution, buy a sata drive, clean install winxp
> PS Next time read the specs of what you are buying
>
> wrote in message
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I hope someone can help me with this - my brother just bought a new
>> motherboard, processor, memory and case and has put it all together.
>>
>> We've only now discovered that the board had 1 IDE port and he only has
>> an ATA HD plus a dvd drive and cd burner. So, he bought a IDE to SATA
>> adaptor so he could plug his ATA HD into a SATA port (of which there
>> are 6).
>>
>> Here is the problem - the IDE HD already has XP installed so is his
>> boot drive, but it's not being recognized on startup.
>>
>> Any clues what we are doing wrong or how to get the disk recognized and
>> booting?
>>
>> All help gratefully received!
>>
>> Ian
>>
>
>
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Anna

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:14 pm
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>> wrote in message
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I hope someone can help me with this - my brother just bought a new
>>> motherboard, processor, memory and case and has put it all together.
>>>
>>> We've only now discovered that the board had 1 IDE port and he only has
>>> an ATA HD plus a dvd drive and cd burner. So, he bought a IDE to SATA
>>> adaptor so he could plug his ATA HD into a SATA port (of which there
>>> are 6).
>>>
>>> Here is the problem - the IDE HD already has XP installed so is his
>>> boot drive, but it's not being recognized on startup.
>>>
>>> Any clues what we are doing wrong or how to get the disk recognized and
>>> booting?
>>>
>>> All help gratefully received!
>>>
>>> Ian


"AJR" wrote in message

> Just curious - One IDE controller! - from where did the new board come?


AJR:
Since it appears that the OP will not be responding to your question --
allow me to do so...

I assume you're referring to the make & model of the motherboard. Obviously
I don't know that but it's not particularly unusual for the newer
motherboards to be now equipped with only a single IDE connector rather than
the more common two IDE connectors. Since virtually every new motherboard
being produced today is SATA-oriented, we'll probably be seeing more & more
of them equipped with only a single IDE connector.
Anna
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