Vista Media Center will not allow me to set up TV tuner

To Davidttx.

Your solution sounds fantastic but I have hit a little hurdle. Please
help.
I follow your steps
Media Center
Tasks
Settings
TV
Set up TV signal

I get the warning that changing will affect TV recording; do you wish
to continue?

I click "Yes" which takes me to:

Set up your TV signal

I click "Next" - there is no other option really.

Then I am asked to confirm my region which eventually leads me to the
"No IR hardware etcetc". At no stage do I get the option to manually
configure my TV signal.

I just bought the PC today. Is this a dastardly plot by Microsoft?
Have they removed the option of manual configuration so that people are
forced to buy a MC remote?


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 >> Stay informed about: Vista Media Center will not allow me to set up TV tuner 

Nothing has changed in Media Center. It has always required that you have a
IR Receiver plugged in to the PC to configure if you are using a Set Top
Box.

The only way you will not get this, is if you are using direct analog cable
(i.e. coax plugged right into the tuner card). If you don't have the
receiver and IR blaster, MCE would have no way to control the box to change
the channels.
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>
> To Davidttx.
>
> Your solution sounds fantastic but I have hit a little hurdle. Please
> help.
> I follow your steps
> Media Center
> Tasks
> Settings
> TV
> Set up TV signal
>
> I get the warning that changing will affect TV recording; do you wish
> to continue?
>
> I click "Yes" which takes me to:
>
> Set up your TV signal
>
> I click "Next" - there is no other option really.
>
> Then I am asked to confirm my region which eventually leads me to the
> "No IR hardware etcetc". At no stage do I get the option to manually
> configure my TV signal.
>
> I just bought the PC today. Is this a dastardly plot by Microsoft?
> Have they removed the option of manual configuration so that people are
> forced to buy a MC remote?
>
>
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 >> Stay informed about: Vista Media Center will not allow me to set up TV tuner 

Jaime;3058541 Wrote:
> Nothing has changed in Media Center. It has always required that you
> have a
> IR Receiver plugged in to the PC to configure if you are using a Set
> Top
> Box.
>
> The only way you will not get this, is if you are using direct analog
> cable
> (i.e. coax plugged right into the tuner card). If you don't have the
> receiver and IR blaster, MCE would have no way to control the box to
> change
> the channels.
> -


Thanks Jaime. You're right, I am using a coax cable and it's probably
plugged straight into the tuner card. I'm not terribly au fait with
the terminology so please bear with me. This is the PC I bought today

http://www.aldi.co.uk/images/data_product/858224483469758ad6e56f.pdf
I'm not too sure what an IR receiver or blaster would be. There is a
TV remote which zaps something which plugs into any old USB socket in
the PC. Are these what you are referring to? I am trying to use them.
But I'm not using the built-in tuner as I haven't figured out how to
use it. I'm just testing to see if I can get any TV program up and
running.I've got Sky TV - the signal goes through a booster up to the
loft where it is split and fed into various rooms into coax sockets.
What I've done is use a coax cable to connect the TV to one of these
sockets. I've found the signals in various channels when working my
way through the wizard but I fall down on the last step where the
system tells me there is no IR hardware.

I understand from another post elsewhere that this is because the
remote is not the official Windows MC hardware but a generic model.

Do you have any suggestions as to what I ought to do?


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 >> Stay informed about: Vista Media Center will not allow me to set up TV tuner 

On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 04:35:35 +0530, xyz1 <xyz1.2upojh.DeleteThis@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

>
>Jaime;3058541 Wrote:
>> Nothing has changed in Media Center. It has always required that you
>> have a
>> IR Receiver plugged in to the PC to configure if you are using a Set
>> Top
>> Box.
>>
>> The only way you will not get this, is if you are using direct analog
>> cable
>> (i.e. coax plugged right into the tuner card). If you don't have the
>> receiver and IR blaster, MCE would have no way to control the box to
>> change
>> the channels.
>> -
>
>
>Thanks Jaime. You're right, I am using a coax cable and it's probably
>plugged straight into the tuner card. I'm not terribly au fait with
>the terminology so please bear with me. This is the PC I bought today
>
>http://www.aldi.co.uk/images/data_product/858224483469758ad6e56f.pdf
>I'm not too sure what an IR receiver or blaster would be. There is a
>TV remote which zaps something which plugs into any old USB socket in
>the PC. Are these what you are referring to? I am trying to use them.
>But I'm not using the built-in tuner as I haven't figured out how to
>use it. I'm just testing to see if I can get any TV program up and
>running.I've got Sky TV - the signal goes through a booster up to the
>loft where it is split and fed into various rooms into coax sockets.
>What I've done is use a coax cable to connect the TV to one of these
>sockets. I've found the signals in various channels when working my
>way through the wizard but I fall down on the last step where the
>system tells me there is no IR hardware.
>
>I understand from another post elsewhere that this is because the
>remote is not the official Windows MC hardware but a generic model.
>
>Do you have any suggestions as to what I ought to do?

Don't answer the question Are you using a set top box?" with "Yes". You are not, you are effectively
using an aerial input (or antenna as Media center insists on calling it). If you were using a set
top box directly you would connect via s-video or composite for the videa & L/R audio & then you
definitely would need the Microsoft IR receiver& IR bug to control the set top box.

How do you propose changing channels for unattended recordings?
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Nigel Barker;3059296 Wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 04:35:35 +0530, xyz1 <xyz1.2upojh.TakeThisOut@DoNotSpam.com>
> wrote:
> [color=blue]
> How do you propose changing channels for unattended recordings?
>

First of all , may I say that while Cote d'Azur may be hot and sunny,
the weather's also wonderful right now in Cambridgeshire.

I'm not planning to do any unattended recordings on the PC as Sky Plus
is so user-friendly; I have no reason to use anything else. I bought
this PC for my child to play PC games and the TV aspect would just be a
bonus - if I can get it to work. Unfortunately I can't even get it to
play Vampire Bloodlines as I reckon my Relisys monitor's not up to it
(30ms response rate has gone out with steam engines)!

Have you any suggestions as to how to get my PC to show TV programs via
the co-ax connection? Would I have to go out and buy a Windows MC
remote? Or maybe I need to shell out for a dvd decoder as a post
suggested elsewhere.


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 >> Stay informed about: Vista Media Center will not allow me to set up TV tuner 

On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:25:36 +0530, xyz1 <xyz1.2uqoni.RemoveThis@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

>
>Nigel Barker;3059296 Wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 04:35:35 +0530, xyz1 <xyz1.2upojh.RemoveThis@DoNotSpam.com>
>> wrote:
>> [color=blue]
>> How do you propose changing channels for unattended recordings?
>>
>
>First of all , may I say that while Cote d'Azur may be hot and sunny,
>the weather's also wonderful right now in Cambridgeshire.

But for how long?

>I'm not planning to do any unattended recordings on the PC as Sky Plus
>is so user-friendly; I have no reason to use anything else. I bought
>this PC for my child to play PC games and the TV aspect would just be a
>bonus - if I can get it to work. Unfortunately I can't even get it to
>play Vampire Bloodlines as I reckon my Relisys monitor's not up to it
>(30ms response rate has gone out with steam engines)!
>
>Have you any suggestions as to how to get my PC to show TV programs via
>the co-ax connection? Would I have to go out and buy a Windows MC
>remote? Or maybe I need to shell out for a dvd decoder as a post
>suggested elsewhere.

Just setup the TV in media Center & say that you are using 'antenna'. You will not then need a
remote but of course you will only be able to view & record whatever the person who has the digibox
remote has decided.

Did you buy the Media center ready made or did you roll your own? If the latter then you will need
an MPEG2/DVD decoder to watch TV or indeed to watch DVD. If this isn't a DIY job then whoever you
bought it from will have installed an MPEG2/DVD decoder.
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Nigel Barker;3060102 Wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:25:36 +0530, xyz1 <xyz1.2uqoni DeleteThis @DoNotSpam.com>
> wrote:
> [color=blue]
> But for how long?
> [color=blue]
>

It was a bit touch and go this morning but it turned out very hot and
sunny in East Anglia.

Thank for the advice about choosing "antenna". I've been having all
sorts of problems with something else and have the best part of today
doing system restore, uninstall Norton360 and trying to put everything
back. By which time I had lost "live TV" and forgot how to get it back
on the menu!

I tried all sorts of things and when I got nowhere, I had another look
at your post and bingo, got "liveTV" back on the screen. Lord, why do
I need to know so many things to use a PC?

I'm not clever enough to roll my own MC. I bought a cheapo Aldi PC 2
days back with the gubbins installed.
http://www.aldi.co.uk/images/data_product/858224483469758ad6e56f.pdf

Many thanks to you and all for helping me out here. I've got the TV
part sussed out , now I have to see how to get the PC game up and
working....


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 >> Stay informed about: Vista Media Center will not allow me to set up TV tuner 

Actually, that is how it works, or worked, in Media Center. I previously had
an older version of MCE and was able to set up the tv signal manually because
the IR thingy never changed the channels correctly. I only had to set the
channel with my cable remote and set to record manually. That's all I wanted
anyway as I have DVR, which is far better. I only record things in MC that I
want to burn. With MCE 2005, one cant set up the tv manually with digital
cable. Would love to revert. Seems like Microsoft continues to go
backward--DONT UPGRADE!!

"Jason Tsang" wrote:

> Unfortunately, that's not how it works in Media Center.
>
> Media Center needs to be able to control the set top box. The whole premise
> behind it is that it will do all the channel changing for you (i.e.
> unattended).
>
>
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>
> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
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> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>
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> "dpic" <dpic DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Thanks for the response, Jaime. I use the remote that came with the sat
> > receiver, so I don't need the IR Blaster. For unattended recording I
> > merely
> > set my channel and use the composite input for recording. This is the way
> > it
> > worked under Xp with ATI software. I simply don't need anymore hardware.
> > The card works fine as it--except for the fact Media Center will not allow
> > me
> > to set up the card. It's just that ATI software isn't ready for Vista
> > yet,
> > and I need to use Media Center.
> >
> > I don't understand why Media Center is requiring hardware that isn't
> > required for the TV to work properly;.
>
>
>
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Even if the IR never worked correctly at changing channels, you still had
one. That is not the same issue as not even having the IR kit at all. If the
OP had an IR kit hookup, then he could do as you did -- just not use it to
change channels.
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> Actually, that is how it works, or worked, in Media Center. I previously
> had
> an older version of MCE and was able to set up the tv signal manually
> because
> the IR thingy never changed the channels correctly. I only had to set the
> channel with my cable remote and set to record manually. That's all I
> wanted
> anyway as I have DVR, which is far better. I only record things in MC
> that I
> want to burn. With MCE 2005, one cant set up the tv manually with digital
> cable. Would love to revert. Seems like Microsoft continues to go
> backward--DONT UPGRADE!!
>
> "Jason Tsang" wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, that's not how it works in Media Center.
>>
>> Media Center needs to be able to control the set top box. The whole
>> premise
>> behind it is that it will do all the channel changing for you (i.e.
>> unattended).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>
>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
>> (and other topics that interest me)
>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>>
>> More information by me
>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>>
>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> "dpic" <dpic DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:174935A0-3873-44C1-BBC0-A600E85BA220@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > Thanks for the response, Jaime. I use the remote that came with the
>> > sat
>> > receiver, so I don't need the IR Blaster. For unattended recording I
>> > merely
>> > set my channel and use the composite input for recording. This is the
>> > way
>> > it
>> > worked under Xp with ATI software. I simply don't need anymore
>> > hardware.
>> > The card works fine as it--except for the fact Media Center will not
>> > allow
>> > me
>> > to set up the card. It's just that ATI software isn't ready for Vista
>> > yet,
>> > and I need to use Media Center.
>> >
>> > I don't understand why Media Center is requiring hardware that isn't
>> > required for the TV to work properly;.
>>
>>
>>
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Where did you change the channel to 3????
In the registry??


Rg

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"siradlib" wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> thank god I4ve found this newsgroup. I think NOT beeing able to select
> s-video input manually is really stupid...
> Apart from gramophones not being able to get connected to Media
> Center, what should I do if Media Center just is unable to learn/
> recognize ir codes of my set top box?
> I have a Nokia dbox2 (for digital cable TV, DVB-C) and Media Center
> just doesn4t recognize the ir codes of its remote.
> Even worse, my cable provider is jumping onto the NDS Videoguard-train
> shortly, and has published a list of set top boxes that will be
> compatible with NDS Videoguard system:
> - technisat PR-K
> - humax PR Fox C
> - humax PR HD 1000C
> - humax PDR 9700 C
> - samsung DCB-I560G
> - Thomson DCI 1500G
>
> Thats all! CAM modules will not be made available, so every other set
> top box with CI rules out! To my knowledge, none of these boxes ir
> codes will be recognized by Windows Vista Media Center.
> And now?
> An "s-video-channel" would be a nice work around, without it Media
> Center is just useless.
>
>

Guys (adn Girls) the situation is :

1. in XP Media Center my AverMedia A700 worked

2. I "upgraded" to Vista - and now have the same issue as all of you

3. Vista DOES NOT support Sat Receiver Cards ANYMORE - Full STOP

4. Only Set-Top-Boxes doe work

All the Cards come (Aver,TechniSat etc.) with Vista Logo - what they all
forget to say "No Media Center Support for Vista" - Only their own
applications do work

I will go back to XP - MS wasted my time
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 14:14:32 -0700, Bodo <Bodo RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"siradlib" wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> thank god I4ve found this newsgroup. I think NOT beeing able to select
>> s-video input manually is really stupid...
>> Apart from gramophones not being able to get connected to Media
>> Center, what should I do if Media Center just is unable to learn/
>> recognize ir codes of my set top box?
>> I have a Nokia dbox2 (for digital cable TV, DVB-C) and Media Center
>> just doesn4t recognize the ir codes of its remote.
>> Even worse, my cable provider is jumping onto the NDS Videoguard-train
>> shortly, and has published a list of set top boxes that will be
>> compatible with NDS Videoguard system:
>> - technisat PR-K
>> - humax PR Fox C
>> - humax PR HD 1000C
>> - humax PDR 9700 C
>> - samsung DCB-I560G
>> - Thomson DCI 1500G
>>
>> Thats all! CAM modules will not be made available, so every other set
>> top box with CI rules out! To my knowledge, none of these boxes ir
>> codes will be recognized by Windows Vista Media Center.
>> And now?
>> An "s-video-channel" would be a nice work around, without it Media
>> Center is just useless.
>>
>>
>
>Guys (adn Girls) the situation is :
>
>1. in XP Media Center my AverMedia A700 worked
>
>2. I "upgraded" to Vista - and now have the same issue as all of you
>
>3. Vista DOES NOT support Sat Receiver Cards ANYMORE - Full STOP
>
>4. Only Set-Top-Boxes doe work
>
>All the Cards come (Aver,TechniSat etc.) with Vista Logo - what they all
>forget to say "No Media Center Support for Vista" - Only their own
>applications do work
>
>I will go back to XP - MS wasted my time

Media Center has never supported DVB-S satellite tuner cards it has always been
necessary to use the software supplied with the card. Some manufacturers
produce fake DVB-T drivers that will allow the card to work in Media Center but
I don't believer Aver have done this. There is a Universal DVB Receiver package
funded by Microsoft & developed by a 3rd-party in Germany that does provide
generic support for Free To Air channels for DVB-S cards that have compliant
BDA drivers. The latest version of UDR that I know of (V1008 build 0806 can be
found here http://blackgold.fileburst.com/downloads/BGT3540_DVBS_MCE_1008.zip
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I'd argue that you only half solved it. Media Center can't control your set
top box, so it'll never be able to automatically record channels. It makes
it a much less compelling use of the program as surely, you can't be at your
computer everytime a tv show starts, in order to change the channel.

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>I had the same problem. I solved it by choosing to set it up myself and
> clicking antenna instead of cable. when finished I changed the channel to
> 3
> the cable box channel and am watching tv and using the cable box remote to
> change channels.
>
> "dpic" wrote:
>
>> Again, Jason, I purchased Vista Home Premium with the idea that I only
>> needed a TV tuner card--not other hardware. I have met the MCE
>> requirements
>> stated by Microsoft to run Media Center. Even the Vista hardware
>> compatibility adviser said nothing about needing IR Blasters. Now, I'm
>> told
>> I can't run the app without more hardware.
>>
>> This is very frustrating. The first time I knew I had an issue was when
>> I
>> tried to set-up MCE for the first time and got the "IR hardware not
>> detected." There was no other information to guide me to what I needed
>> to
>> do. Since I met all the stated requirements to run Vista I had no idea
>> what
>> the problem was. I've been searching the internet for a couple of days
>> now
>> and this is the first place I've found with any answers. Even Knowledge
>> Base
>> was useless about "IR hardware not detected."
>>
>> I simply don't understand why I can't run Media Center without IR
>> hardware.
>> Your position seems to be because I won't have all the cool benefits.
>> Alas,
>> I don't have any of the benefits, now.
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