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Sangoma

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(Msg. 46) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:29 am
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Nigel Barker;2833550 Wrote:
> On Wed, 9 May 2007 06:28:17 +0530, The Live TV _is_ recorded. It's
> actually a coupel of seconds behind real time. This allows the trick
> play features like Pause/Rewind Live TV.
>

You are absolutely correct. However, this does not involve the need to
change channels.

What's wrong with "IR receiver not detected. Would you like to proceed
without it?"


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(Msg. 47) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:31 am
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 04:29:18 +0530, Sangoma <Sangoma.2qc9vo RemoveThis @DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

>
>Nigel Barker;2833550 Wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 May 2007 06:28:17 +0530, The Live TV _is_ recorded. It's
>> actually a coupel of seconds behind real time. This allows the trick
>> play features like Pause/Rewind Live TV.
>>
>
>You are absolutely correct. However, this does not involve the need to
>change channels.
>
>What's wrong with "IR receiver not detected. Would you like to proceed
>without it?"

Why bother as MCE will not be able to change channels? What's the point of a PVR permanently stuck
on one channel? TV is multichannel nowadays even when I was a kid we had two channels on analogue
TV.
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:31 am
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Quite simple because it is called a 'Media Center'. Yes, it has PVR
capabilities. I can use it to watch TV, DVDs and recorded movies. I do
not expect MCE to change DVDs for me!

Why not support the possibility that I have a VCR connected to S-Video
input?

What if I have a VCR on Composite 1 and a satellite receiver on
composite 2?

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(Msg. 49) Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:14 am
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 03:31:22 +0530, Sangoma <Sangoma.2qe4jj RemoveThis @DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

>
>Quite simple because it is called a 'Media Center'. Yes, it has PVR
>capabilities. I can use it to watch TV, DVDs and recorded movies. I do
>not expect MCE to change DVDs for me!

MCE _can_ change DVDs for you

>Why not support the possibility that I have a VCR connected to S-Video
>input?

You need to drop old technology sometime. There is no facility for connecting a gramophone to MCE
either

>What if I have a VCR on Composite 1 and a satellite receiver on
>composite 2?

Forget that old VCR:-) A better case would be where you had a satellite receiver & a cable STB. The
inability to handle multiple TV programme sources & hence multiple EPGs is feature missing from MCE
that is present in competing PVRs.
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:14 am
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"Nigel Barker" <nigel RemoveThis @hp.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 May 2007 03:31:22 +0530, Sangoma <Sangoma.2qe4jj RemoveThis @DoNotSpam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Quite simple because it is called a 'Media Center'. Yes, it has PVR
>>capabilities. I can use it to watch TV, DVDs and recorded movies. I do
>>not expect MCE to change DVDs for me!
>
> MCE _can_ change DVDs for you
>
>>Why not support the possibility that I have a VCR connected to S-Video
>>input?
>
> You need to drop old technology sometime. There is no facility for
> connecting a gramophone to MCE
> either

*ONLY* because Microsoft says so... As long as ANY of my devices have the
required connectors, I SHOULD be able to connect it and get a usuable signal
from it.

How would you like it if you weren't able to plug your AM radio into any of
the outlets of your house, even though the radio supported 110vac and the
plug was correct? "Sorry sir. Your radio is AM. It won't work with our brand
of electricity."
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:16 am
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 02:59:37 -0600, "Noozer" <dont.spam.TakeThisOut@me.here> wrote:

>How would you like it if you weren't able to plug your AM radio into any of
>the outlets of your house, even though the radio supported 110vac and the
>plug was correct? "Sorry sir. Your radio is AM. It won't work with our brand
>of electricity."

In my case that would be true as I live in a 220V country:-)
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:18 pm
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"Nigel Barker" <nigel.RemoveThis@hp.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 May 2007 02:59:37 -0600, "Noozer" <dont.spam.RemoveThis@me.here> wrote:
>
>>How would you like it if you weren't able to plug your AM radio into any
>>of
>>the outlets of your house, even though the radio supported 110vac and the
>>plug was correct? "Sorry sir. Your radio is AM. It won't work with our
>>brand
>>of electricity."
>
> In my case that would be true as I live in a 220V country:-)

Ya... I though of that. Smile

Wish I lived someplace nice and warm all year round.

How about this for an example...

You're watching TV and an old show filmed in black & white comes on. Your TV
suddenly displays a black screen with the message "This content was filmed
in black and white, therefore it has been blocked."
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:07 am
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> MCE _can_ change DVDs for you
OK, I just hit the Play DVD button on MCE. MCE came back and said
"Windows Media Center cannot detect a video DVD in the DVD-ROM drive.
Insert a video DVD into the drive." It did not even open the drive door
for me!

> You need to drop old technology sometime. There is no facility for
> connecting a gramophone to MCE either
I beg to differ. IF my gramophone (we're showing our age here Smile) had
an RCA style output I could connect it to the Composite input of my TV
card. Alas, MCE won't let me select it because I have no IR blaster!

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(Msg. 54) Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:28 pm
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 05:07:14 +0530, Sangoma <Sangoma.2qg1zn DeleteThis @DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

>
>> MCE _can_ change DVDs for you
>OK, I just hit the Play DVD button on MCE. MCE came back and said
>"Windows Media Center cannot detect a video DVD in the DVD-ROM drive.
>Insert a video DVD into the drive." It did not even open the drive door
>for me!

You need the correct hardware. Something like this
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2006/09/17/sony-media-ce...r-200-d
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:17 am
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 15:09:08 +0530, kbdread <kbdread.2qkj3m.TakeThisOut@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

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>Guys the question still remains, Is there a way to bypass "IR Hardware
>not Detected"?

Not if you want to connect a device to the composite or s-video input of the analogue TV capture
card.
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:09 pm
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Guys the question still remains, Is there a way to bypass "IR Hardware
not Detected"?


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(Msg. 57) Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:09 pm
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> Guys the question still remains, Is there a way to bypass "IR Hardware
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Yes, Install the hardware,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880100851


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(Msg. 58) Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:06 pm
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The problem has nothing to do with IR blasters, or remotes, or any of
the things mentioned in a number of the posts. The problem is very
simple. Media Center does not recognize the composite nor the s-video
inputs on the tuner card. I have used ATI cards and software (the
world's worse). With that setup, you could select either the cable
input, the s-video input, or the composite input. You could feed any
signal into either of those inputs and record. It had (and still has)
nothing to do with blasters or remotes. Media Center does not let you
select any tuner input (on the fly) other than cable.


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(Msg. 59) Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:06 pm
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If you tell Vista that you will be receiving input from a STB you can select
Coax(RF), S-Video or Composite as the video source(depending on the card).
However you can not select an STB as the source unless you have an MCE IR
receiver and and IR blaster connected.
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> The problem has nothing to do with IR blasters, or remotes, or any of
> the things mentioned in a number of the posts. The problem is very
> simple. Media Center does not recognize the composite nor the s-video
> inputs on the tuner card. I have used ATI cards and software (the
> world's worse). With that setup, you could select either the cable
> input, the s-video input, or the composite input. You could feed any
> signal into either of those inputs and record. It had (and still has)
> nothing to do with blasters or remotes. Media Center does not let you
> select any tuner input (on the fly) other than cable.
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:46 pm
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Thanks for the reply. However, I continue to say (as I said in the last
part of my post) that Media Center will not let you change inputs "on
the fly." To make the user return to the set-up commands just to
change inputs is worthless. In my opionion that is just "seeing" one
input. It would have been easy for Microsoft to include "Select Input"
in its basic menu when you boot Vista Media Center. As usual, even to
us confirmed Microsoft users, "would have been easy" has apparently
never been a part of the equation. Interesting that ATI has had that
capability back to the early days of the AIW cards. Pity ATI can't get
their software act together. I believe ATI's use of Guide+ provides
about the best program guide that is free to the user.


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