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Since: May 24, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:44 pm
Post subject: What does Ghost do with program files? Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>general (more info?)
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Will Norton Ghost preserve everything on my hard drive? I'm using
Windows XP, and I have purchased by download MS Office and
Dreamweaver. If my hard drive were to crash (or, worse, if the entire
machine were damaged beyond repair) would Ghost enable me to copy them
to a new hard drive? Would they work immediately, or would I need to
contact tech support at each vendor to explain the situation and get
new product keys?
Thank you,
Bob Feduniak >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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Since: Jan 03, 2008 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:39 pm
Post subject: Re: What does Ghost do with program files? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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If you were to make an image of your install, and the HD crashed, you could
install that image, and it would be EXACTLY like it was. All the product
keys would already be there, activated, and installed JUST AS THEY WERE. It
is an EXACT copy of the hard drive at that moment. Just make sure to keep
your backup's safe.
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Dustin Harper
dharper RemoveThis @vistarip.com
http://www.VistaRIP.com | Vista Resource & Information Page
<robertfeduniak RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> Will Norton Ghost preserve everything on my hard drive? I'm using
> Windows XP, and I have purchased by download MS Office and
> Dreamweaver. If my hard drive were to crash (or, worse, if the entire
> machine were damaged beyond repair) would Ghost enable me to copy them
> to a new hard drive? Would they work immediately, or would I need to
> contact tech support at each vendor to explain the situation and get
> new product keys?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob Feduniak >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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Since: Oct 28, 2005 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:27 pm
Post subject: Re: What does Ghost do with program files? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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You need to read up on how drive imaging software works:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Drive+imaging
If you saved the images on your hard drive and it died, you'd
be out of luck. The images are complete only for your machine, so
even saved right, you'd probably be out of luck if your machine went.
If you want to arrange things never again to have to reinstall Windows
on your computer, and are willing to make and manage images of your
hard drive, drive imaging software lets you install whichever you saved
in a few minutes - aps work immediately - rather than the long grind.
<robertfeduniak.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote in message
news:0c35b76a-351c-4345-8fe1-6df5a5e58cdd@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Will Norton Ghost preserve everything on my hard drive? I'm using
> Windows XP, and I have purchased by download MS Office and
> Dreamweaver. If my hard drive were to crash (or, worse, if the entire
> machine were damaged beyond repair) would Ghost enable me to copy them
> to a new hard drive? Would they work immediately, or would I need to
> contact tech support at each vendor to explain the situation and get
> new product keys?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob Feduniak >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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Since: Sep 23, 2006 Posts: 826
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:33 pm
Post subject: Re: What does Ghost do with program files? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"robertfeduniak@msn.com" <robertfeduniak.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:
>Will Norton Ghost preserve everything on my hard drive? I'm using
>Windows XP, and I have purchased by download MS Office and
>Dreamweaver. If my hard drive were to crash (or, worse, if the entire
>machine were damaged beyond repair) would Ghost enable me to copy them
>to a new hard drive? Would they work immediately, or would I need to
>contact tech support at each vendor to explain the situation and get
>new product keys?
It preserves everything. >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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Since: Apr 28, 2004 Posts: 191
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:41 pm
Post subject: Re: What does Ghost do with program files? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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GHOST has several options, but the most common one a disk image. That will
backup/restore the entire hard drive, with the exception of a few large
files that XP will automatically re-create, namely pagefile.sys and
hiberfil.sys. (You could backup those too, but there is no value, and they
can take up a few Gig.) A disk image also contains the master boot record,
so it can be restored to an unformatted hard drive, and still run XP. (In
contrast, a partition image would usually not save the boot record, and thus
would not run XP after a restoration to a new hard drive, directly, although
it could be used with a few more steps.)
As for product keys/activation, usually restoring either a disk or a
partition image will not invalidate those things, so long as the underlying
hardware (usually meaning the motherboard) has not changed. I have done
this several times with XP, Office 2003, etc.
However, activation will likely fail, if you restore to a new machine (new
motherboard), even if the same brand/model. This is to prevent someone from
buying one license fo XP, MS Office, etc, installing on one PC, then cloning
to other PCs. Note that pre-XP software is less sensitive about this sort
of thing.
If the whole machine dies, then first contact the PC maker for possible
warrantee replacement of hardware, and any software that came with the PC.
Even if post-warrantee, they may offer some deal. After that, try
installing the software and see what it does. But, in general you would
need to contact each software vendor to get activated. This could be as
simple as trading a several sets od numbers with a computerized voice, or it
might involve talking to a real person.
But, be aware, if you are using OEM-type software (e.g., XP came
pre-installed), then that license is non-transferrable to any other
hardware, even if the PC is destroyed. In contrast, retail linceses, at
least from Microsoft, are infinitely transferrable, although they may
eventually ask what you are doing if you call them too often.
<robertfeduniak DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> Will Norton Ghost preserve everything on my hard drive? I'm using
> Windows XP, and I have purchased by download MS Office and
> Dreamweaver. If my hard drive were to crash (or, worse, if the entire
> machine were damaged beyond repair) would Ghost enable me to copy them
> to a new hard drive? Would they work immediately, or would I need to
> contact tech support at each vendor to explain the situation and get
> new product keys?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob Feduniak >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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Since: Sep 23, 2006 Posts: 826
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:39 am
Post subject: Re: What does Ghost do with program files? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Bob Harris" <rharris270[SPAM]@hotmail.com> wrote:
>GHOST has several options, but the most common one a disk image. That will
>backup/restore the entire hard drive, with the exception of a few large
>files that XP will automatically re-create, namely pagefile.sys and
>hiberfil.sys. (You could backup those too, but there is no value, and they
>can take up a few Gig.) A disk image also contains the master boot record,
>so it can be restored to an unformatted hard drive, and still run XP. (In
>contrast, a partition image would usually not save the boot record, and thus
>would not run XP after a restoration to a new hard drive, directly, although
>it could be used with a few more steps.)
>
>As for product keys/activation, usually restoring either a disk or a
>partition image will not invalidate those things, so long as the underlying
>hardware (usually meaning the motherboard) has not changed. I have done
>this several times with XP, Office 2003, etc.
>
>However, activation will likely fail, if you restore to a new machine (new
>motherboard), even if the same brand/model. This is to prevent someone from
>buying one license fo XP, MS Office, etc, installing on one PC, then cloning
>to other PCs. Note that pre-XP software is less sensitive about this sort
>of thing.
>
>If the whole machine dies, then first contact the PC maker for possible
>warrantee replacement of hardware, and any software that came with the PC.
>Even if post-warrantee, they may offer some deal. After that, try
>installing the software and see what it does. But, in general you would
>need to contact each software vendor to get activated. This could be as
>simple as trading a several sets od numbers with a computerized voice, or it
>might involve talking to a real person.
>
>But, be aware, if you are using OEM-type software (e.g., XP came
>pre-installed), then that license is non-transferrable to any other
>hardware, even if the PC is destroyed. In contrast, retail linceses, at
>least from Microsoft, are infinitely transferrable, although they may
>eventually ask what you are doing if you call them too often.
You forgot to give the weather report for the next 24 hours. >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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Since: Aug 08, 2007 Posts: 124
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:24 am
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Since: May 24, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:32 am
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Thanks to all for your responses to my OP. I hadn't realized that the
motherboard is how it's determined whether a program is being
reinstalled on the same machine. Does that mean if a power surge
fries the motherboard, you're out of luck with Ghost or any other
imaging method?
Bob F >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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Since: May 24, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:38 am
Post subject: Re: What does Ghost do with program files? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Feb 5, 10:59 am, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnho... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> Only if you are using a BIOS locked OEM copy of Windows that came
> preinstalled on the computer.
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> <robertfedun... RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> news:ca886d71-7d0e-494b-9154-d05cb542071d@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
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> > Thanks to all for your responses to my OP. I hadn't realized that the
> > motherboard is how it's determined whether a program is being
> > reinstalled on the same machine. Does that mean if a power surge
> > fries the motherboard, you're out of luck with Ghost or any other
> > imaging method?
>
> > Bob F
I was assuming that Dreamweaver, etc. all use motherboard-verification
and that I'd lose any purchases copy-protected programs if I lose the
motherboard.
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Since: Jan 14, 2008 Posts: 36
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:47 am
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> If the disk fails, Ghost will allow a quick and easy replacement.
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> If the computer fails it may help, bu the differences in hardware
> with a new (and probably different model) computer may cause issues
> with getting Windows to boot.
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> "Uncle Grumpy" wrote:
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>> You forgot to give the weather report for the next 24 hours.
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> http://s214580749.websitehome.co.uk/
Which is usually remedied by doing an XP repair.
Here's a substitue weather report: Dark tonight, less dark tomorrow
until nightfall with periods of light.
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Regards,
Twayne
OO0 is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org
Please respond to the newsgroup, not to
my e-mail, so that all may benefit. I do not
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Since: Jan 14, 2008 Posts: 36
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:52 am
Post subject: Re: What does Ghost do with program files? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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> Will Norton Ghost preserve everything on my hard drive? I'm using
> Windows XP, and I have purchased by download MS Office and
> Dreamweaver. If my hard drive were to crash (or, worse, if the entire
> machine were damaged beyond repair) would Ghost enable me to copy them
> to a new hard drive?
Yes. In this case you would need the CD burned with the .iso that comes
with Ghost. Be sure to burn that CD just in case of such a situation.
Would they work immediately,
If only the drive were changed, it would work immediately. If you've
used reactiviation recently for other reasons recently, you might have
to make the free phone call instead of online activation but it's no big
deal at all.
Chances are good if only the drive changes it'll just work and that
will be it.
or would I need to
> contact tech support at each vendor to explain the situation and get
> new product keys?
No. Even if something went wrong you wouldn't need to get new product
keys; the ones you have would still work. This would only be an issue
if you also changed other components, especially the motherboard at the
same time w/r to XP, and not at all for other programs such as Office
apps.
HTH
--
Regards,
Twayne
OO0 is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org
Please respond to the newsgroup, not to
my e-mail, so that all may benefit. I do not
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Since: Jan 11, 2008 Posts: 214
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:59 am
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Only if you are using a BIOS locked OEM copy of Windows that came
preinstalled on the computer.
<robertfeduniak.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks to all for your responses to my OP. I hadn't realized that the
> motherboard is how it's determined whether a program is being
> reinstalled on the same machine. Does that mean if a power surge
> fries the motherboard, you're out of luck with Ghost or any other
> imaging method?
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> Bob F >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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Since: Jan 11, 2008 Posts: 214
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:21 pm
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You can't assume that.
<robertfeduniak.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 5, 10:59 am, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnho....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Only if you are using a BIOS locked OEM copy of Windows that came
>> preinstalled on the computer.
>>
>> <robertfedun....DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> news:ca886d71-7d0e-494b-9154-d05cb542071d@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
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>> > Thanks to all for your responses to my OP. I hadn't realized that the
>> > motherboard is how it's determined whether a program is being
>> > reinstalled on the same machine. Does that mean if a power surge
>> > fries the motherboard, you're out of luck with Ghost or any other
>> > imaging method?
>>
>> > Bob F
>
> I was assuming that Dreamweaver, etc. all use motherboard-verification
> and that I'd lose any purchases copy-protected programs if I lose the
> motherboard.
>
> Bob F
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Since: Mar 01, 2007 Posts: 326
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:55 pm
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:44:21 -0800 (PST), "robertfeduniak@msn.com"
<robertfeduniak RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote:
>Will Norton Ghost preserve everything on my hard drive? I'm using
>Windows XP, and I have purchased by download MS Office and
>Dreamweaver. If my hard drive were to crash (or, worse, if the entire
>machine were damaged beyond repair) would Ghost enable me to copy them
>to a new hard drive? Would they work immediately, or would I need to
>contact tech support at each vendor to explain the situation and get
>new product keys?
>
>Thank you,
>
>Bob Feduniak
Why ask HERE? Ghost is a program that is totally separate from the OS
and not even sold by MS!
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Since: Jan 11, 2008 Posts: 214
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:55 pm
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Because he's ghosting Windows. Lighten up.
"NoConsequence" <none RemoveThis @none.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:44:21 -0800 (PST), "robertfeduniak@msn.com"
> <robertfeduniak RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote:
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>>Will Norton Ghost preserve everything on my hard drive? I'm using
>>Windows XP, and I have purchased by download MS Office and
>>Dreamweaver. If my hard drive were to crash (or, worse, if the entire
>>machine were damaged beyond repair) would Ghost enable me to copy them
>>to a new hard drive? Would they work immediately, or would I need to
>>contact tech support at each vendor to explain the situation and get
>>new product keys?
>>
>>Thank you,
>>
>>Bob Feduniak
>
> Why ask HERE? Ghost is a program that is totally separate from the OS
> and not even sold by MS!
>
> Ask elsewhere
> >> Stay informed about: What does Ghost do with program files? |
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