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Jimmie

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Since: Aug 06, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:54 pm
Post subject: Games recently crashing my laptop
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1st laptop specs:

OS: Windows XP sp2
Processor: P4
Memory: 512 DDR
AGP: ATi 16 mb DDR
HD: 10GB main, partition 8 GB

OK here's the problem I have had issues were my laptop while playing games
like Command & Conqure Zero Hour and just yesterday Star Trek Starfleet
Command II have literally crashed my laptop (Please NOTE: This has neVER EVer
happened) untlil recently. Now here's where it gets REALLY weird after the
laptop turns literally off and I boot it back up I have this program called
"Winpatrol" it's like a watch dog program and tell me if it's ok to allow
'Java applet' to run. I click no. But then I check the Task Manager to see if
Java is running in the background and it's not. I know its running because
every time my laptop crashes and I boot it up again I am prompted by
WinPatrol and asks if it's ok to run Java. Or maybe it's not could it be
'DEP' not allowing my games to not function correctly. I'd also like to know
how can Windows really collect the debbug data from the crash because this
issue has just started to crash my laptop nothing else crashes it? Please
help thank you.

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Allan

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Games recently crashing my laptop [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jimmie" wrote in message

> 1st laptop specs:
>
> OS: Windows XP sp2
> Processor: P4
> Memory: 512 DDR
> AGP: ATi 16 mb DDR
> HD: 10GB main, partition 8 GB
>
> OK here's the problem I have had issues were my laptop while playing games
> like Command & Conqure Zero Hour and just yesterday Star Trek Starfleet
> Command II have literally crashed my laptop (Please NOTE: This has neVER
> EVer
> happened) untlil recently. Now here's where it gets REALLY weird after the
> laptop turns literally off and I boot it back up I have this program
> called
> "Winpatrol" it's like a watch dog program and tell me if it's ok to allow
> 'Java applet' to run. I click no. But then I check the Task Manager to see
> if
> Java is running in the background and it's not. I know its running because
> every time my laptop crashes and I boot it up again I am prompted by
> WinPatrol and asks if it's ok to run Java. Or maybe it's not could it be
> 'DEP' not allowing my games to not function correctly. I'd also like to
> know
> how can Windows really collect the debbug data from the crash because this
> issue has just started to crash my laptop nothing else crashes it? Please
> help thank you.
Jimmy, run "Set Program Access and Defaults" and check what your JVM is set
to be. There are two JVMs, MS and Sun. Maybe you should either uninstall
the JVM or update to a current version for security reasons. If you block
the Java applet from running using a security program there is no reason
that Java will be running "in the background" as you fear.

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Allan

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Jimmie

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:32 am
Post subject: Re: Games recently crashing my laptop [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Allan" wrote:

>
> "Jimmie" wrote in message
>
> > 1st laptop specs:
> >
> > OS: Windows XP sp2
> > Processor: P4
> > Memory: 512 DDR
> > AGP: ATi 16 mb DDR
> > HD: 10GB main, partition 8 GB
> >
> > OK here's the problem I have had issues were my laptop while playing games
> > like Command & Conqure Zero Hour and just yesterday Star Trek Starfleet
> > Command II have literally crashed my laptop (Please NOTE: This has neVER
> > EVer
> > happened) untlil recently. Now here's where it gets REALLY weird after the
> > laptop turns literally off and I boot it back up I have this program
> > called
> > "Winpatrol" it's like a watch dog program and tell me if it's ok to allow
> > 'Java applet' to run. I click no. But then I check the Task Manager to see
> > if
> > Java is running in the background and it's not. I know its running because
> > every time my laptop crashes and I boot it up again I am prompted by
> > WinPatrol and asks if it's ok to run Java. Or maybe it's not could it be
> > 'DEP' not allowing my games to not function correctly. I'd also like to
> > know
> > how can Windows really collect the debbug data from the crash because this
> > issue has just started to crash my laptop nothing else crashes it? Please
> > help thank you.
> Jimmy, run "Set Program Access and Defaults" and check what your JVM is set
> to be. There are two JVMs, MS and Sun. Maybe you should either uninstall
> the JVM or update to a current version for security reasons. If you block
> the Java applet from running using a security program there is no reason
> that Java will be running "in the background" as you fear.
>
> --
> Allan
>
>
Allan I also did some research on the topic of Microsofts DEP and how its
suppose to halt virus code execution. But in fact it also halt the execution
of games from what I read in other forum post for example here's one

http://www.teamati.com/showthread.php?t=1056

DEP halts the games code execution and thinks its a virus which also shuts
down the whole pc crashing it without any prompt warning.

"Data Execution Prevention may accidentally shut down legitimate process
from valid applications or services, particularly third-party installers used
by software developers that release their products for download through the
Web, or software programs that are less commonly used.

NOTE: To make thing worse, DEP normally does not or fails to display or show
any warning or information or acknowledgment message prompt that can let you
know that DEP has shut down a process, thus causing you unaware of the reason
why your setup file cannot run, or why your computer cannot start a service
and etc."
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