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(Msg. 106) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times. 
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
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(Msg. 107) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
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(Msg. 108) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 109) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 110) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 111) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 112) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 113) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 114) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 115) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
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(Msg. 116) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 117) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 118) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 119) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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(Msg. 120) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I think that for large corporations that they can create a manifest for a
program and sign it with their key to permit it to run more easily. Most
will require that the provider seperate the admin requiring functions from
the normal usage.
Just think about the major shifts that have occured in the Apple market.
Complete changes of the operating system and multiple processor changes. I
think a complete shift might assist the Windows world in many ways, but
Microsoft is afraid that it might allow their customers to see the
possibilities of Apple and Linux.
"Peerke" <Peerke DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0125511-8288-4254-9670-76F0266C0A29@microsoft.com...
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is the case a lot of times.
> Yes I know, but it will be a long time from now until all programs run
> smoothly in Vista. Das this mean we will live for some years with
> prompting
> programs? Administrators will soon banned UAC.
>
>> So, if I (now) understand correctly ... the program is prompting, and you
>> do
>> NOT want it to pompt because you do NOT want to run it as an
>> administrator?
>
> Yep! I don't mind the prompt (once!) if necessary and no, I do not want to
> run this program as an administrator.
>
>> I don't think I've ran accross this problem before. If the program was
>> DESIGNED for Vista, it should have a manifest telling Windows to always
>> run
>> it as an administrator (and this would be the correct behavior, since you
>> have to assume the application knows what it's talking about); however,
>> if
>> it was NOT designed for Vista (as should be the case), it should NOT
>> automatically prompt you.
>
> Officiously the program is not (right now) designed for Vista but that
> doesn't mean it will have to prompt me every start. It only complains
> about
> an unidentified program from an unidentified publisher. Well let me
> identify
> and work with it.
>
>> Try this:
>
>> - right-click your program's .exe file
>> - click properties
>> - click compatability
>> - click Show settings for all users
>> - Make sure the run as admin box is unchecked
>> - Click OK twice
>
> I have. Did not work. Still prompted every start as user including typing
> the password as well as administrator without having to provide a password
>
> Maybe it has something to do with the fact I start the computer with
> hitting
> F8 to allow unsigned drivers (is this the only way to allow unsigned
> drivers
> to be running?)? Because this is also necessary to be able to run the
> program.
> >> Stay informed about: Why ask every time? An unidentified program bla... |
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